The Martlet would turn the Stormer into a mini ADATS as they actually have some quite good armour penetration (500-600mm), having 16 of them on a fast chassis would be super fun
I’d also like to see some other Starstreak/Martlet armed vehicles such as the RapidRanger which is replacing the Stormers sent to Ukraine
I think that would also be a good reason to make a Stormer (Late) as a new vehicle, that way you can leave the standard stormer at its current BR with the Starstreaks, and add one around 11.3 with the Martlet because of the armour penetration.
Not saying that its a great idea, but for balance purposes…
Otherwise the current stormer may need a BR raise, to fit more around the ADATS.
I think thats a pretty good idea and I’d prefer to see two seperate Stormers.
Gaijin could argue that Britain now has like five 10.0-10.3 SPAA so moving the Stormer up to 11.0+ and giving it Martlets would make more sense, but I’d only support that if they fixed the Rapier so that it was actually useable
wholeheartedly agree. If rapier can be fixed, it would fill the same role as the stormer does currently and take its current BR, then the Stormer HVM can go up in BR and get its Martlet missiles and its IFF pannels making it the best British AA with the ADATS at 11.3/11.7 - I’d say possibly 11.3 or 11.0 just because of the worse range. Range is the one big decider on what the BR would be compared to the ADATS in this case I think.
I already prefer using the Stormer over the ADATS, if it got Martlets it wouldn’t even be a contest, I despise the ADATS
I think indigenous vehicles should take priority in tech trees anyway. The ADATS is cool, but the Stormer is British, so it should be the primary and final SPAA for Britain, maybe with the ADATS foldered with it as the ADATS is a bit of an outlier, added out of necessity at the time, but if Stormer had its Martlet’s, that would be a good replacement.
Not really, LMM still only has a range of 8km. The Candats has 10km. + A significantly better search sensor. Lots of CAS has standoff ranges in excess of 8km (at top tier).
Martlet would probably have a similar issue to what Rapier has right now though less extreme, it’s not a massive warhead at 3kg, compared with ADATS at 12.5KG. (Rapier is 500g)
a LMM Stormer and the Cadats would pair excellently however, One providing reach while the other providing quiet close in cover.
love that idea too. But again, if it gets martlet it will need a BR increase… so foldered with the ADATS but having the stormer as the primary research vehicle would be a fab fix IMO.
Eh, would be fairly useless as you wouldn’t have many reloads, better off with the MooG offerings (and seeing what Thales comes up with, any day now…)
Gravehawk is not alegeable to come int othe game, as its ties to a certain real life event are too strong.
Ah my favourite Military failure.
Rapier is missing its shrapnel 1.4 kilogram warhead 0.5 is explosive. the rest of is a surgeon nightmare
I fired 4 missiles into the helicopter on the test drive and it was still limping around. What do they think the army loaded them with? Feathers?!?! Another joke weapon for the British.
My guess is gaijin spaghetti code, it’ll probably be fixed by 30th.
Too quickly. It’ll be fixed soon™
This isn’t Gravehawk. Gravehawk is a container based system using AA-8s.
MOD video below.
there is more than one version of the system, with the same name.
That’s almost certainly not true.
As far as I am aware, the HMT/Hawkeye/ASRAAM combo has nothing to do with Gravehawk which, considering the naming convention, was probably developed separately by MSI Defence.
Happy to be proved wrong, but please use a reliable source and not ‘bulgarianmilitary.com’ or something.
Yer, its quite clearly described here as a single shipping container sized system.
Please don’t pretend to know what you are talking about without at least googling it first.
