Why is the Pzh2000 the same BR as the PLZ05?

facing ww2 & early cold war kit in something that will one shot anything at any range (provided you don’t suck) that zeroes your range in for you is brutally unfair.

facing chieftains, lat leo 1s and early T72 would balance it out as you cant abuse vehicles that cant counter you at close range.

What would be the selling point of VIDAR at 9.3 when compared to 1A5 or T-72A ?
Gen2 thermals and what else ?

In my opinion modern SPHs at 9.3 would be incredibly niche picks and honestly underpowered. They are solid at the moment as they are facing unstabilized tanks with no LRF.

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Can we remove that weird leopard nerf that made it so it can’t fire over its rear sides to make it more “realistic”

This is another example of them picking and choosing when to do things for realism or when to do it for balance.

Be consistent.

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The crew is packed together so any well aimed rouns will either kill 2/3 crew or hit the ammo.

Nobody seems to understand how bad the HEVT of the Pzh2000 is when compared to the Type99 or PLZ05.

I will NEVER stop hating a tank that so retarded.

French 8.7s are fine without stabilizers and they don’t have a guaranteed 1 shot round.

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Plz05 is acutally 50cal resistant. It has 30/25/20mm armor thats angled meanwhile thr pzh 2000 has 30/10/10mm flat sides meaning its easily killed by 50cal

You should get it bro once you have it, you will stop hating it, only people who don’t have it will say such thing lol

They aren’t fine, especially MBTs, as they are forced into a certain playstyle because they don’t have a stabilizer. Also, they actually have working gun handling and gun depression while also easily out-reloading VIDAR after a couple of shots. They have much more armor as well.

As for shells, HE will overpressure but you’ll have to aim much more carefully than with a 105mm dart for very similar results. Dart is much more versatile and is definitely a better pick out of the two.

So what are you left with ?
You want to put VIDAR at 8.7 where stabilization/dart/LRF combo is often seen, so it’s only advantage would be thermals and a good reload for first two shots, all the while having crippling downsides. Doesn’t really look balanced to me.

German 8.7 JaPz would be a much better pick at the same BR, I really think you’re overvaluing VIDAR by a lot.

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Ya I think vidar should remain where it is… and pzh2000 should go down in br

Why should PZH go down to 7.3 ?
It significantly better than Type 99.

Speaking of Type 99, is there any reason why Pzh doesn’t get L15A2? It’s the same rifle isn’t it?

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In order to get this update on time, Gaijin just copy/pasted stuff from VIDAR to PZH, which is why it had TVD modification on the dev server.
I hope it gets L15A2 though.

It certainly need’s something. Right now it’s honestly pretty crap. I wasn’t expecting much from it, being an SPH and all, but it’s honestly been one of the most frustrating ‘‘tanks’’ i’ve ever played.

No depression, No survivability, No cover big enough for it, FCS crippled by every single hit… and as if all that wasn’t painful enough, the shells are so lacklustre you’re basically forced to play cupola sniping against guys 1/3rd your size who can in return, one shot you literally anywhere.

I can’t think of a single reason to actually play it beyond ‘looks cool’ lmao.

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Yeah most of the woes you have with PZH are shared by many SPHs, but those are often hidden at lower BRs where tanks’ average reaction time is much lower, so you’ll have more time to aim.

L15A2 won’t change much when compared to F3, you’ll still have to aim at the same spots.

You’re probably right. I’m just coping lol.

I think a significant factor in why i’m disliking it so much is just that its one of the few SPH’s to actually have all its FCS stuff modelled. All the SPH’s are squishy, but this thing is in a completely different league in how easy it is to cripple.

The LRF just isn’t worth this BR lol. There’s too many autocannon gremlins who bully it.

That could be it, as only PLZ05 has the similar levels of internal component modelling.

Indeed, stuff like XM800T will clap your cheeks hard.
This is why I was telling people to not ask for too many things, as giving it X, Y, Z, etc. features might increase it’s BR to the point where they’ll have literally no areas they shine at.

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the oe f3 is going to be obsolete as the velocity of the guns is being fixed for the m107 shells
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they might as well add rh-30 saphe 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

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The auf1 being 7.0 is bs. It doesnt get its best rounds, its huge and very slow turret rotation speed. It does have good mobility and good reload, but when you’re the size of a small barn it doesnt really matter. This being .7 br below a modern sph with lrf is…yeah

Also just 0.7 higher than SPH that can be killed by .50 cals with twics the reload. The Auf shouldn’t go down.

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simply my personal opinion but for me artys, especially this one is absolute usuless poop, no gun depression, no reliable shell (i hate HE), no armour, it has only speed and lrf, i only see it useful on some flat maps with a lot of buildings, otherwise it’s usuless, whenever i take it i die, i only get kills if i get maps like one i described or stupid enemies

Your post aged poorly.