Can you stop misrepresenting flightmodel files if you don’t understand them. Those screenshots you show, scroll up, what do you see under which topic those fall?
Yes, that’s right, those are values fed to the WT wiki, and they absolutely do NOT represent actual in game performance, see my earlier responses.
If you want to look at actual FM data, you need to look within the flightmodel folder, there you have a fm folder that contains the actual FM. But, in there you need to ignore everything under "Passport". The flight performance itself is calculated using everything at the beginning of the file (top to passport). See for example the P-47D-28. It does NOT contain any “climb speed” or “top speed” and whatnot. Those are calculated by the game engine when fed all the information.
Again, if you want to see actual performance in game, you need to test in game. The FM files aren’t going to tell you, neither are the statcards, neither the WT wiki. You can use plugins like WTRTI to document in game performance during test flight into a .csv file which you can then import into a program like Excel and graph out the performance in detail and compare planes against each other if you so wish.
That’s my bad on the wiki section, I just used Ctrl+F for ease of use and it was already off of my screen. I knew about the fm files but assumed the values within the main file were a combination of the information given within the fm file (where the fm file wouldn’t actually be used in game, where it was just a list of base values that were fed into a function by the devs to create the main .blkx within the flightmodels folder), kind of like the flightmodels file was the output of compiling (as an analogy) the fm file.
The current American meta is either fly in, head-on everything and hope you get a kill or climb, watch your team die because they are easily out-performed then get chased around and get called slurs/get mass-reported till you get banned for “Passive behavior”
What change are you going to push? American players barely even climb let alone work together if they’re out-climbed. That’s why I dread playing with Americans when it’s a 6v6 or 8v8 against Japanese in SA server.
Whenever I play Americans or with Americans, I accept the fact that I might have to carry the match. Call that egotistical or whatever, but my experience with them are barely neutral, always slightly negative.
If you think shallow climbs and dives are there only for creating separation, then you are wrong. You’re also gaining more energy than your opponents, because they lose more energy than you at high speed.
As for bleeding speed in turns, try doing a horizontal 180 while pulling hard, and another one from the same starting conditions but while pulling gently, and see the difference.
When you know your opponent is at a sufficiently lower energy state, there is a point where you can gently pull up, get to near stall speed, and come back over your opponent. They will try pulling up after you, but they will stall out, and you get a free attack. To see that effect clearly, try the A36 with no gunpods. Be at your top speed somewhere near the deck, and have a slow, aggressive plane follow you. Get enough separation (I think 2.5km minimum, don’t remember, maybe more, and depends on what you’re running from), and then gently pull up and convert all your speed into altitude. Your opponent will not reach your altitude.
“What if they climb right away, instead of following?”
Then they are forcing a stalemate. The pilot that gets frustrated first loses. Or the one with less tickets.
Well said, instructor gimps the FM. It’s what I do with the Horton 229 too. People say it bleed energy too fast in turns, I just keep telling them it happens when you break hard, and that the proper way is to turn gently with the mouse.
Of course, it’s going to be hard when you have one slotted hard in your six, because the Horton has the flight profile of an entire country when turning.
As long as you are in control of your aircraft you can not be reported for passive play, you are allowed to use the whole map. Survival is priority no1. Ignore them in chat if they want to wast a GM’s time thats there problem.
The P51’s flight model is absolutley broken and has been needing a fix for years.
The slanted rudder when flying in a straight line is one of many dead giveaways that there is a problem.
But somehow even if you sit people down and present all these issues, they’ll look at it and go “Lol, nah it’s fine” Like they are somehow immune to the obvious.
What makes me most angry about the P-51 is its habit of overheating the engine. Why can’t gaijin give it a correct radiator opening like in almost all other airplanes?
No. The rudder is always slanted. You can see this if you take the D20 into a test flight and just stay on the ground. The FM is broken and Gaijin has ignored it for years.
Instead of watching yt or history channel you might consider reading well researched books about aerial warfare in the ETO.
Using google or wikipedia won’t get you smarter, try various war diaries like Caldwell etc (in order to get reliable data to educate yourself) before spreading this kind of nonsense.
My claim was:
Btw - US fighters were clapped above Europe in every fight on equal terms until the end of 1943, so you might lower your expectations…
1943 was a nightmare for the USAAF in the ETO. Bombers and fighters had horrible loss rates vs the Luftwaffe - the fighters mainly due to limited range and the fact that they had to develop suitable tactics first and could not rely on numerical superiority like in mid-late '44 & '45 vs untrained rookie pilots.
And ofc the Brits; the latter achieved nothing above France with their useless “Circus”, “Rhubarb”, “Ramrod” and “Rodeo” sorties. Iirc they still had a negative overall k/d vs JG 26 & JG 2 due to the low alt nature of these sorties - at least in 1943. Things changed later with the creation of the 2TAF, but i talked about 1943.
I would be more than happy if only they could solve the problem of engine overheating, they just have to make the automatic radiator work correctly, but it has been just as bad for more than 9 years, it is little less than a damn shame.
