You’re a troll because no matter the topic you alway argue against the OP and never actually make a valid point.
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You still have the normal rangefinder and most maps aren’t big anyways.
Most maps are CQC and 9.0 gets 90% downtiers right now. It will only get better for the 279 when the next BR changes go live.
Speaking of the T-64A. It’s worse at everything than the 279 except velocity but is higher in BR.
Because on top of the insane armor it also has good mobility.
It’s human nature, none of the owners or sellers would want their vehicle to be nerfed (that’s including me lol), you will do the same if you also owned it. You should get it though but ONLY AFTER they code the bomb-resistant back, it has lost one of the features that maintain its high kdr.
Now the 292 just keep going up in br, years from now it should be as rare as the 279 and the price will go up once the quantity goes down.
It’s one thing to not want it change and another to lie to justify its BR. I can tell you the KV-1C is among the strongest tanks in the game and arguably even stronger than the 279 in the right hands despite owning it myself.
NGL every tank should be bomb resistant.
The 292 is a lot worse than the 279 and won’t ever reach the same price. I never understood the hype about it when in reality it’s just a worse T-80B at the same BR. It was always just a HE launcher with a LRF for me.
It’s fallen off sadly ever since they moved it to 10.3 and fucked with MBT damage models the HE can’t even oneshot them reliably.
@AverageWehraboo
Apparently agreeing with most takes is “arguing against”.
And apparently making valid points is not making valid points.
Ground event started so the object 279 crying starts.
Most non-penning rounds, in my experience, are panic shots. Last i played it, people were non-penning my sides because they kept shooting too low and hitting the tracks.
This is such a bs argument.
It is only used in two ways.
A: has bad stats wow you are so bad you cant do well in this clearly op tank
B:has good stats wow you claim it isnt op yet you are doing well in it
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It’s just human nature bro, people mostly want to nerf things they don’t even play, because why should I care since I don’t even play it right? the only time it affects me is when I fight against it lol
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true I can confirm myself lol
In what is apparently an uncommon opinion, it’s just fine where it is now. No longer the brain dead nuke printer it was on release, nor completely obsolete either. To run down it’s characteristics quickly:
Armor can and will bounce most APDS, unless exceptionally well aimed. This is by far the most common round type at 8.3 and below, so it retain’s it’s monstrous advantage when downtiered. It can also bounce some weaker first gen darts too, if not precisely aimed. It’s vulnerable to HEAT rounds, but people rarely main them, meaning you’ll still have the advantage on the first shot unless they have time to prepare.
Firepower is still great. Outside of the Chieftain Mk 10 and the copy paste T-72s, it really doesn’t run into anything that can bounce it’s round reliably. And since it has incredible post pen damage, you barely need to aim at targets. Most enemies can be center massed and oneshot, giving you a sizable reaction time advantage (Considering they need to aim their shots relatively carefully to ensure penetration/decent damage).
The reload is longer than average, but not cripplingly so like on the T-10M, so it’s not impossible to play around. You also get a coaxial 14.5mm gun like the T-10M, an underrated advantage that allows you to dispatch lightly armored tanks and track enemies even if your commander is dead. It’s also a near ballistic match to the main gun, helping you line up shots at medium ranges faster.
Mobility is also rock solid. Not incredible, but for a heavy tank it’s exceptionally reactive and quick to accelerate. Plus, actual reverse gears, a rarity for Soviet tanks at the tier. Not it’s strongest point, but not much of a downside either.
This combo makes it a monster on urban maps, especially in downtiers, where it can brawl aggressively and take advantage of that reaction time advatange to oneshot tanks who are still trying to line up a shot. Considering it’s comparative rarity, there’s still a lot of players who have no idea how to fight it or where to shoot. Generally, if I see a 279 in good matchmaking, I make it my mission to dispatch him, since if I don’t they often run over my team. The only other tank that gets this reaction out of me is a KV-1B/E in good matchmaking, which I think is telling. This happens much less than it used to, thankfully, but it’s still problematic when the stars align.
They’re far weaker in uptiers and on larger maps, but that’s hardly a mark against the tank. You have lineups for a reason, if you get bad matchmaking just spawn something else instead. Trying to balance the tank around that is like trying to balance a Nashorn that you insist on spawning in brawling maps.
Ultimately, like almost every other problematically balanced vehicle, it needs decompression.
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No one doubts it
Will do so later.
You don’t think there’s a reason people use this op tank to grind events?
I nonpenned it with DM23 5 times in row and after checking every single impact in protection analysis later they all should have penned but didn’t.
Vehicle and player stats shouls always be judged independently from each other.
If someone has bad KD in every vehicle except for one there might be reason for it other than their skill increasing.
Nuke came to game way after the 279.
“Fine” now lol. By far the best 9.0 and will be even stronger after the BR changes.
No I also want the Tiger 2H, KV-1C, KV-1E (and KV-1B) and others nerfed despite owning and playing them. Playing multiple nations makes you face those tanks you play to realize how strong they can be and helps you to be less biased.
If the KV-1B/E only got downtiers like the 279 it would be stronger and it only gets balanced when it fights other op tanks like the Pz4, M4A2, T14. At least it has one weakness in the form of its weak gun. The 279 has no major weaknesses.
Do you think people wouldnt use an op tank when there wasnt an event?
And did you show that? No.
The kve/b can be argued due to their armor. But the tiger 2 and kv1c? How? Please dont tell me you want the tiger 2 at like 7.3 or something.
comes off pretty insecure
I got his pulled up rn. Just go in game and search his username.
Top 2 most played tanks with some odd stats.
He also has an odd choice of heavies he thinks are op.
For the tiger 2h and kv1c, here are his stats
Strange he didnt mention these as his main examples
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You know you can still check the stats ingame?
Played them a lot when I was a noob.
Also you don’t understand how to read stats properly. One person having good stats in one vehicle isn’t the same as thousands of people having a good KD in the 279.
They aren’t that far off in terms of average KD and unlike the 279 there are very few people that actually play the IS-4M/T32E1 a lot.
Going by my stats the T-34(1940) is the strongest tank in the game with the SU-122 being a close second.
279 is resistant to most autocannon rounds across the front 270 degrees of its hull. The chieftan hull is vulnerable across a huge section of its hull.
Chieftan has better numerical armor, but a lot of the early apfsds rounds have significantly better flat pen than sloped, so the 279s sloped armor counts for a LOT more than the flatter chieftan armor. Chieftan breach is also FAR easier to destroy due to the armor shot trapping a huge area of the front. CE the chieftan wins, KE the 279 does. Unfortunately, KE is more common at those brs.
Imo, APHE>APFSDS. Too many go-karts will cause darts to overpen where even the kinetic component of a APHE will do more damage.
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Turret armor of Chieftain Mk10 is ~500.
APFSDS does not have over 550mm of penetration as your post falsely claims.
He never said that. Stop lying Alvis.
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