It has a similar situation when fighting against enemies with LRF, it will never fire off the first shot should both decide to engage, its even more lacking in long-range because the dated aphe shell velocity will give the enemy plenty of time to evade. Most heavy tanks can maintain good kdr by following one heavy tank rule, never spawn it in an uptier lol
Most of the fights happen on city maps and the nuke shell is on par with early APFSDS. You also get an optical rangefinder like many other tanks around its BR.
Almost every tank is worse in an uptier but the 279 is good when uptiered and op when downtiered.
Except unlike GTA the K/D in WarThunder actually reflects player skill.
Yeah, around 2-3 major updates.
Based on my experience, the T-62M1 is more uptier proof, it has the shell velocity advantage and LRF, you are less likely to miss targets above 1km, due to the velocity of 3BM28, targets are less likely to be able to reverse back in cover before taking a hit, unlike the BR-482B, you will likely miss if you trade shot with target. CQC maps and full downtier performance Object 279 perform much better than the T-62, but uptier you need better vehicle reaction speed and T-62M1 with a much better FCS (even better than the T-64A) will be able to deal with fast moving targets more reliably.
I do have good KDR in it but I rarely get hit, I could say 75% of my total kills are stealth kills, I’ve learned that its way too risky to trade shot with anything it faces because the armor is unreliable, I don’t even underestimate Leopard 1 because whenever I get cocky it just OHKO me with HEATFS.
@Flogger_cbs 's post says that the more you state facts and criticize War Thunder, the more you’re paid by Gaijin.
Hilarious. Keep defending Gaijin, Flogger.
Yeah honestly insane how must it costs now. Doesn’t surprise me one bit why Gaijin refuses to nerf it.
You’re a troll because no matter the topic you alway argue against the OP and never actually make a valid point.
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You still have the normal rangefinder and most maps aren’t big anyways.
Most maps are CQC and 9.0 gets 90% downtiers right now. It will only get better for the 279 when the next BR changes go live.
Speaking of the T-64A. It’s worse at everything than the 279 except velocity but is higher in BR.
Because on top of the insane armor it also has good mobility.
It’s human nature, none of the owners or sellers would want their vehicle to be nerfed (that’s including me lol), you will do the same if you also owned it. You should get it though but ONLY AFTER they code the bomb-resistant back, it has lost one of the features that maintain its high kdr.
Now the 292 just keep going up in br, years from now it should be as rare as the 279 and the price will go up once the quantity goes down.
It’s one thing to not want it change and another to lie to justify its BR. I can tell you the KV-1C is among the strongest tanks in the game and arguably even stronger than the 279 in the right hands despite owning it myself.
NGL every tank should be bomb resistant.
The 292 is a lot worse than the 279 and won’t ever reach the same price. I never understood the hype about it when in reality it’s just a worse T-80B at the same BR. It was always just a HE launcher with a LRF for me.
It’s fallen off sadly ever since they moved it to 10.3 and fucked with MBT damage models the HE can’t even oneshot them reliably.
@AverageWehraboo
Apparently agreeing with most takes is “arguing against”.
And apparently making valid points is not making valid points.
Ground event started so the object 279 crying starts.
Most non-penning rounds, in my experience, are panic shots. Last i played it, people were non-penning my sides because they kept shooting too low and hitting the tracks.
This is such a bs argument.
It is only used in two ways.
A: has bad stats wow you are so bad you cant do well in this clearly op tank
B:has good stats wow you claim it isnt op yet you are doing well in it
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It’s just human nature bro, people mostly want to nerf things they don’t even play, because why should I care since I don’t even play it right? the only time it affects me is when I fight against it lol
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true I can confirm myself lol
In what is apparently an uncommon opinion, it’s just fine where it is now. No longer the brain dead nuke printer it was on release, nor completely obsolete either. To run down it’s characteristics quickly:
Armor can and will bounce most APDS, unless exceptionally well aimed. This is by far the most common round type at 8.3 and below, so it retain’s it’s monstrous advantage when downtiered. It can also bounce some weaker first gen darts too, if not precisely aimed. It’s vulnerable to HEAT rounds, but people rarely main them, meaning you’ll still have the advantage on the first shot unless they have time to prepare.
Firepower is still great. Outside of the Chieftain Mk 10 and the copy paste T-72s, it really doesn’t run into anything that can bounce it’s round reliably. And since it has incredible post pen damage, you barely need to aim at targets. Most enemies can be center massed and oneshot, giving you a sizable reaction time advantage (Considering they need to aim their shots relatively carefully to ensure penetration/decent damage).
The reload is longer than average, but not cripplingly so like on the T-10M, so it’s not impossible to play around. You also get a coaxial 14.5mm gun like the T-10M, an underrated advantage that allows you to dispatch lightly armored tanks and track enemies even if your commander is dead. It’s also a near ballistic match to the main gun, helping you line up shots at medium ranges faster.
Mobility is also rock solid. Not incredible, but for a heavy tank it’s exceptionally reactive and quick to accelerate. Plus, actual reverse gears, a rarity for Soviet tanks at the tier. Not it’s strongest point, but not much of a downside either.
This combo makes it a monster on urban maps, especially in downtiers, where it can brawl aggressively and take advantage of that reaction time advatange to oneshot tanks who are still trying to line up a shot. Considering it’s comparative rarity, there’s still a lot of players who have no idea how to fight it or where to shoot. Generally, if I see a 279 in good matchmaking, I make it my mission to dispatch him, since if I don’t they often run over my team. The only other tank that gets this reaction out of me is a KV-1B/E in good matchmaking, which I think is telling. This happens much less than it used to, thankfully, but it’s still problematic when the stars align.
They’re far weaker in uptiers and on larger maps, but that’s hardly a mark against the tank. You have lineups for a reason, if you get bad matchmaking just spawn something else instead. Trying to balance the tank around that is like trying to balance a Nashorn that you insist on spawning in brawling maps.
Ultimately, like almost every other problematically balanced vehicle, it needs decompression.
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No one doubts it
Will do so later.
You don’t think there’s a reason people use this op tank to grind events?
I nonpenned it with DM23 5 times in row and after checking every single impact in protection analysis later they all should have penned but didn’t.
Vehicle and player stats shouls always be judged independently from each other.
If someone has bad KD in every vehicle except for one there might be reason for it other than their skill increasing.
Nuke came to game way after the 279.
“Fine” now lol. By far the best 9.0 and will be even stronger after the BR changes.
No I also want the Tiger 2H, KV-1C, KV-1E (and KV-1B) and others nerfed despite owning and playing them. Playing multiple nations makes you face those tanks you play to realize how strong they can be and helps you to be less biased.
If the KV-1B/E only got downtiers like the 279 it would be stronger and it only gets balanced when it fights other op tanks like the Pz4, M4A2, T14. At least it has one weakness in the form of its weak gun. The 279 has no major weaknesses.