It is a serious post. The 279 is the most op and braindead tank in the game.
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Uh huh ;)
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Chieftain Mk10 has more armor, a significantly superior round, and a laser range finder.
It is and always has been superior to Object 279.
Chieftain can lol-pen 279, 279 cannot do that to the Mk10.
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Not to mention the fact this new BR change will be a buff for the already good 9.3 meta, meaning 279 will face leopard 1A5, Chieftain Mk. 10, etc more often
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The Chieftain Mk10 does not have better armor. It can use the turret thanks to better gun depression but the armor is worse. It only has more penetration and gun depression and worse everything else.
It won’t meet them more often. It will only make it stronger in a downtier if all the vehicles that could at least have a chance at killing the 279 get moved up.
Effective armor of 279 is <290mm.
The turret armor of Mk10 is an average of 450mm.
The hull is an average of ~200mm.
You also forgot the laser range finder.
I’ve used the Mk10 extensively as well as did correct cross-analysis, you’re not going to get me on this.
I already use the Mk10 in my 9.3 lineup because of it being one of if not the best 9.0 in the game.
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Didn’t like the change of MK10 at all, it’s a strong hull-down vehicle I admit due to the turret armor, but 9.0 is already a pretty dead br due to having nothing in there, removed it then it will become a dead br lol unless they found a reason to move something up but the Mk3/5 are pretty mediocre at its current br, they are so slow that getting into positions will always be an issue and getting cqc maps means they get one-tab easily like Leopard 1 through the hull
Sorry, but this thread is a joke. Maybe every 20 Rounds I see one. So what is the point? You die instant in this Heat-FS meta. Nearly everything can penetrate and destroy you. For example: 9M117 rocket? dead. HOT rocket? dead. MGM-51C? dead. And these are not the tandem rockets. DM12? dead, and so on. So, if you want to learn the game, do it. Otherwise, die over and over against these simple outplayable vehicles.
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So because it’s not 100% invincible it’s balanced? ATGM/unstabilized vehicles will never get the first shot of and the 279 can even bounce DM23 at spots it should pen in protection analysis.
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It’s fine where it’s at, it’s not this unstoppable monster some people make it out to be. I have no trouble dealing with it using my 8.7 Israeli lineup.
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8.7 capped with lowest downtier at 8.3.
Dude, it’s not even 5% survivable right now.
IS-7 is 8.3, which has a better protected turret, similarly protected hull, still quite fast, same reload; the only major difference is no stabilizer.
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Damn, yet another comment of yours I completely agree with.
It’s much worse protected than the 279.
Nowhere close to the 279 hull. When shot at from the side the 279 can bounce a lot.
And a stab is another huge advantage. It’s the reason the Cent Mk3 is 7.7 and not 6.7.
lol The turret armor of 279 is 50mm less, and the hull armor is easily penned by early APFSDS.
And no, the reason the Cent Mk3 is 7.7 and not 6.7 is not due to the stab.
You forgot its gun.
It has a similar situation when fighting against enemies with LRF, it will never fire off the first shot should both decide to engage, its even more lacking in long-range because the dated aphe shell velocity will give the enemy plenty of time to evade. Most heavy tanks can maintain good kdr by following one heavy tank rule, never spawn it in an uptier lol
Most of the fights happen on city maps and the nuke shell is on par with early APFSDS. You also get an optical rangefinder like many other tanks around its BR.
Almost every tank is worse in an uptier but the 279 is good when uptiered and op when downtiered.
Except unlike GTA the K/D in WarThunder actually reflects player skill.