Lately I’ve been playing with the Mirage F1C, and the Magic 2 missiles are being lost with just one flare. This missile should have a better seeker for electronic counter measures. The missile is lost at 1 km distance in Allaspect with just one flare. I think Gaijin is at the right time to fix the game again and stop nerfing France, because the only weapon that could compete in patch 13.0 against the R27R and AIM-7 SPARROW is the only one worth playing with, since the French radar missile is already very bad. The missile has already been nerfed several times, going from 45G to 35G of lateral thrust, and now it’s lost with just one flare. It’s impossible to play with the only decent missile, as the French radar missiles are already very bad.
It’s not and this doesn’t happen to me.
Magic 2 is the second best IR missile in game bat the 27ET idk probably a wack launch angle
Not really, it only has 35G turn rate, very short range and FOV irccm meaning almost any other irccm missile is better than it in one way or another.
on Jets only the 9M, its clones and AAM-3 use Tracking suspension, almost everything uses FoV.
which makes them better than the magic 2 since it’s not more maneuverable enough or longer range to compensate for the worse irccm
The magic II in game can turn at over 45Gs, not 35, which is enough to where hitting targets manuevering at 15Gs is possible in most conditions.
FOV are the best IRCCMs in war thunder
Considering it’s a Gatewidth IRCCM missile I’d assume it works perfectly fine if it gets easily flared in all-aspect… Gatewidth IRCCM excels at rear-aspect where it’s IRCCM has higher chances of having only the enemy’s exhaust in its FOV.
Youre asking it to do basically the only thing it doesnt do extremely well
The fov doesnt decrease as much when its not looking at the back of the engine, if you fire them rear aspect they almost never get flared
II honestly have no idea what you are on about. Front aspect flaring it makes perfect sense. I have never had issues with them in side and rear aspect but with only 2 of them on the plane front aspect shots are just not worth it.
What is this…
It is one of best IR missiles.
Just dont shoot it on front aspect.
Shoot from side or rear, and preferring 2km range = You wont flare it
Ps remember to lead the shot
Definitely not second best
It’s only good in one specific scenario.
That alone makes it not very good
Not really
Work best in rear aspect but need close range to be really good
Seeker shutoff is better for most scenarios
neither iRCCM type is better than the other.
FOV narrowing is obviously better at shorter ranges and rear aspect, very close range if from front aspect, tracking suspension is better at longer ranges and side aspect shots
Seeker shutoff is easier to dodge. Real benefit of most FOV missiles is the high maneuverability. Being able to slam your enemies from 0.5km
Not really
Nah, fov really only works in a ±60 degree arc behind the rear of an aircraft, while shutoff works well in like basically all aspects but especially good side aspect
i’ve hit flaredumping players in various aircraft from non-front angles from ranges up to 2km with the R-73, just gotta not fire directly at the flare dispenser
what i said here about the dispenser also works the other way around, R-73 spamming flankers often get angry when i 1flare their R-73s on full afterburner