J35XS gets 4 Aim 9Js at 10.3 while F4F for germany with worse FM gets them at 11.0 ? whats the balance here its better in everyway and gets to fight F100s and mig 19s
- raise J35XS
- keep same
- other
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Yeah it should be 10.7. Pretty damn op at 10.3, 6 free kills when fully down tiered lol
No RWR and 13.0’s BR compression causing the 11.7s that easily frag it to remain 11.7.
Should be 10.7. Sure, no RWR is an issue in a full uptier, but that is no excuse for it being able to see 9.3s that dont stand a chance against it. Most of the problematic SARH slingers are at 12.0 anyway
If RWR and RWR alone was a good enough excuse, the F-104S ASA would be 11.3 and not 12.0
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Also, its 6
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Clearly they’re keeping it at 10.3 cause it’s missing it’s aim-26s :p
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Used to be 11.0, people complained, and it went down. The issue, as usual, is people only compared the vehicle to its performance against full uptiers without regard for the aircraft that are uptiered against it. No RWR and limited countermeasures? Yeah, that’s an issue at max uptier. But in downtiers, or even at its own tier, and even uptiered to 10.7 it’s fighting aircraft without countermeasures at all, with inferior flight performance and without the same excellent missile armament.
And of course there’s the delta issue. It pulls incredible angles of attack and loses considerable speed in the process. But players refuse to learn moderation when maneuvering and continue to dump their speed then complain they bleed too quickly. And that’s how we get the undertiered Mirages, Drakens (because it’s not just the XS at 10.3), MiG-21s, and F-18s as the latter isn’t a delta but in many ways flies like one.
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F4F? Worse FM? Get out of here
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There’s no way he’s played both, like no way in hell
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your gonna say a draken has a worse Flight model than a slatted Phantom ?
Ever since the ‘noob friendly’ FM nerfs, the J-35 is significantly less capable than in the Agile Eagle Phantoms, I have hundreds of matches in both, and for anything besides slow dogfighting, I’m taking the F-4F (I assume we are talking about the Late)
cant we keep a damn plane at a lower br for some fun , you guys do realize it has 6 cm and aim9ps its not that op , it fucking bleeds during turns and a 10.7 br means 11.7 br too
Can we please move it up so lower BR planes will be more fun? It also has 12CM, and a really great missile loadout for 10.3.
10.7 will be the best BR for it until BR decompression is done.
No one is kicking up a fuss about the AJ 37, an 11.3 flight model with TWS radar and 340 chaff, arguably far more oppressive than the J 35XS, in the right hands at least
it was 10.7 before and it was not that good , you do realize every game will involve 11+ and radar missiles!! Its not that op
no not really against 9.3 flareless planes with 6 AIM-9J missiles 12 large calibre CM and the oppresive FM to boot its insane on the hand AJ37 carrys to missiles max and for guns you have gun pods its far more balanced
just multipath worst missile your facing is the R24R which you can just multipath or a AIM7E2 dogfight from a F4 which really isnt even that good at low altitude
and just because its not op in a uptier doesnt mean you cant beat what your facing the J35XS has zero right to face flareless aircraft as you have a better chance of dodging radars than a F100 has at dodging 9Js
i agree
Best way to balance it is to give it its actual missiles so it has a reason to go up to 10.7 for gaijins logic. Its how they tend to balance some vehicles and it allows the XS to be historical