Its a fantastic tank mate with 6 crew, 3 x 50 cals, arguably should be 7.3
the T32E1 is a great tank for its BR to be fair, outwith the M103 and Conquoror it’s one of hte bets 7.7 heavies in the game?
APDS is great, the turret traverse is great, the 48kmph while not great, is not slow, it has good HP/PT, and a good reload, as well as decent armour
M1 Abrams is not ass.
its 10.7 with great optics and a 5 second reload and a 215 angle pen.
extremely mobile
the 2AV is not better, it lacks thermals and reload in comparison.
The M1A1 should be 11.7 its comparable BR’d tank is the leopard 2PL which the M1A1 is arguably better than bar in Thermal imaging quality.
Better round
better reload
more effective armour
about equal mobility
not got the leopard hump over the back
turret isnt as weak.
I mean it is pretty annoying without depression or reverse, two almost requirements for light tank. Neither does it have any protection. Also the reload sucks.
It could have gotten better but the reload and BR, otherwise for sure 11.3/11.7.
Bear in mind the Object 120 is premium, but that shouldn’t make it immune to being placed in a proper BR. The PTZ89 is tech tree and yes, it is undertiered for 9.0BR - It could easily go to 9.3BR.
Then there’s the PLZ05 in the tech tree for West Tai and it’s also undertiered at 7.7 just like the PzH2K.
Also, I’ll admit I forgot that the BMP-2M finally got uptiered to 10.3
Still 8.7 is not a proper Br for the object 120, just the round by itself doent justify to be such a br since you pretty much deletes any advantage that the obj 120 have while keeping all the disadvantages that it has as it get completely outmatched at longer ranges against tanks with laser range finder, and there is are a lot of other tanks that have similar penetration at 9.0 aside from the ptz 09, while they still have better roeload, stabilizer better optics and lrf, like the type 74 or chieftain mk10, the thing is at 8.7 it is completely outmatched by even things like the brenus.
Btw it is not better that the of 40 at 8.0…
What do you mean 100mm cannon, do you use the “fugas” rounds or that missile “knows were it is at all times” and produces superb “hits”. BMP-3 is very situational and unreliable at best. Yes when it catches the Leo1a1a5s and the like yes it works but the magic begleit with engine armor ohh boy there you get way too many hihiha moments.
Not to mention Swedish and German T-72s and the legendary armored Tam 2IP that can tank several shots. Yes against most lights and a lot of leo1a1s plus mbts-70s it works but anything with armor and you will struggle.
why don’t you play it before writing nonsense, it’s as big as a bus, of course no armor, with a low firing rate autocannon useful only against light vehicles and ok missiles that take ages to reload, 2gen thermals are good but not enough to classify it as op. Bdm-4 is a better vehicle
I am the OP and I dont even understand how this thread got so off topic. Anyone who claims the 120 is op is just ass at the game. bmp3 however should not be 9.0
It does bro, I mean you look at the person’s record you will quickly see they are dogwater, especially USA mains… I mean like out of all the vehicles they could pick, they have to choose the more mediocre ones like obj 120 or turms lmao
Yeah. They said turms-t should go to 10.7 or something when it already doesn’t even perform at 10.3, and the he also said 2s38 is op as hell and should go to 11.3+, but someone pulled his record and he has 0.5 KD in it. If this isn’t gaslighting I don’t know what is lol
“I intentionally turn off brain when I play X nation’s vehicle bro”
When i used to only play germany I thought it was bs there was a tank with gen 2 thermals lower br than my 2a4. Reason I thought this was egregious is because I camped thermals all the time and if you do that it seems like a big deal because gen 1 sucks bad. And of course i never bothered to think about it having 4km reverse and 5 degrees of depression. Also i swear i couldnt pen the ufp with dm23 maybe you cant? Idk.
I would understand if you were complaining about bmd 4 which is just better than literally every other 9.3 ifv (like how cv9030fin is at same br gaijin) but bmp 3 is just balanced imo. It has fine gun, good atgm but with long reload, 4s reload he, thermals and ess which are good combo for 8.0-9.0 enemies. Also you can turn urself into nato ifv with good depression angles by using suspension
Ngl all of those seem just fine and not op for me.
105mm m4 is just heat (or hit) slinger at low br.
Pershings are okay but nothing more.
M46 is good but not smth WOW.
T32 is heatfs/apds/apfsds receiver, no thx.
T29 has ok armor, instagib gun, multiple hmgs which may be painful for enemy noobs.
Base m60… You cant be serious.
York may look like op because wow prox fuse no tracers but hey, look at china, pgz09 with tracerless a head rounds which are similar to yorks prox fuse rounds except pgz has thermals, rate of fire and smaller size.
Abrams is just ok and can do job if you are good enough.
The only really good vehicle I can recall is xm800t which I use at all brs (even got nuke at 11.3) because its small, fast and can destroy pretty much any tank if you have secret knowledge about weakspots.
