Jumbos are fine.
I’m just being generous, in the end the point is made regardless.
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Yeah , ok and before that was MiG 23ML/MLA/MLD with fake FM (not to mention ) and people still cry because it got fixed -not nerfed, it became according to data after how many years.
Yes people defended F-14 because they refuse to do anything to evade AIM-54s and F90s, which in my MF.1 i didn’t got hit once by either (and people say it has crap RWR) … Which AIM-54 was also carpily nerfed -or be correct , incomplete and never got completed- from day one.
About this, everyone said if you give R73 , you should give M2 and 9M. GJ said it was a test and those missiles are too OP, yet (yes they would because most of planes in the tier below didn’t even have all aspect or had R-60M).
Let’s not talk that GJ brought R-27ER , instead of fixing R-27R back there. They fixed them one year after…
And i’m not any main. But when you talk be objective, it’s annoying to blame players and their whining like if GJ takes it seriously anyway. And many times they artificially nerfed/buffed things or gave things that they shouldn’t to create balance but failed. It’s not only in US/USSR…
Ex. they gave M2 missiles, but they were R-60M quality for much time… They could have done the same for R-73.
It’s not about USSR/US whatever nation, the ^mains^ ,which is a stupid term since today we play this and tomorrow we play something else. It’s more of meta-slaves refusing let go their favorite points machine. Those ^mains^ main a nation that nets them “flex” points… when the meta shifts, their are bothered to grind something they didn’t …because it wasn’t meta.
GJ exploits this and shifts the meta patch after patch and there you see US ^mains^ crying, USSR ^mains^ crying , Germany Superior technology ^mains^ crying etc. That happens since forever!
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And M4A3 (105), T26E5 and E1-1, T29, T30, M46, T32 and E1, M60 (base variant), M247, M1, IPM1, M1A1.
These are all OP, if you apply the same standards US mains use when declaring Soviet tree vehicles OP. If T-80BVM is OP, so is M1A2, both are similarly powerful within their BR, compared to the vehicles of other nations.
Edit: M4A3 105 specified
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5.7, face tiger and king tiger, also is-2
in a down tier its killable, front armor sometimes bounce otherwise dead
i mean this thing is good so
mid
premium, OP? not really, has weakspot but the only good is gun
hell no, how did u even came to this conclusion
its a m26 with better engine and heatfs, thats it, it face 8.0, downtier is ofc sometimes shred but the t26e5 is better
they face apfsds and heatfs, armor is good again convetional rounds but the T32 has weakspot, T32E1 is better tho, but nowhere OP
its slow, doesnt have stabilizer, armor is quite decent, traverse rate is mid, apds is ok
yes but not really
M1 is ass, Leopard 2A4 is better, hell even 2AV is better, mobility is good, m774 is mid, armor get penned easily, constant up tier
IMP1 and M1A1 is decent, but armor again isnt very good especially hull armor, ofc its abrams anyways but uptier constantly
speaking from experience^
I assume you’re referring the rank II, not the 76, because if it’s the case this holds no sense whatsoever.
a 90mm at 6.7 is OP? lmao
7.0 armor but same problem as the previous vehicle.
Premium that barely anyone plays nowadays other than collectionists and content creators to do milking campaigns over forgotten vehicles
same as before + event vehicle that gets even less seen.
same argument as the T26 yet worst bc it gets 7.0 due to APCR.
Only worthy vehicle so far that you’ve mentioned that deserves to be called OP without any tag.
Outclassed by armor and penetration, and marginal mobility advantage against light tanks that do hold better pen.
Both are mid of the pack: Either bully early rank VII or gets bullied by late rank VII, that doesn’t make them OP by definition.
Out of your ‘objective’ list, i only found 2 more vehicles at most.
I’m not using any standards if its with absurd and childish strawmans.
absurd simplification. The T-80BVM has arguably the same speed, has better armor and enough pen to punch through anything, a combo any M1A2 does NOT have.
nope.
bud is definitely NOT beating the allegations.
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Out of all of those only 120S might be OP.
However, what’s really OP is F-15C, P51H5NA, now M4A2 due to other movements in other tech trees.
While I don’t consider M60 TTS OP, it’s currently the same BR as the inferior T55AM1.
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LMAO the only one in that list that’s OP is the M4A3 (105), and in all honesty, rank 1/2s don’t even count. All three big nations have rank 1/2s vastly superior to every other nation (except maybe Britain).
Honestly, the M4A2 is kinda meh. Against new players it’s pretty good, but anyone who knows about the turret weakspot will have a very easy time nuking the M4A2. I speak this mostly from my experience fighting it, I haven’t played it a whole lot.
US tanks? OP?
Lol. Lmao even. If only.
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How is any of that line-up OP lmao. The closest you get is the T34 and that’s only when it’s in a hulldown position. If the hull is exposed it’s an easy kill.
Seems that i have to repeat that i was being generous, and even then i’m highlighting dubious cases of being OP with a questionmark(s).
I’m still looking over the mentions I’ll admit and people are wildin’ lmfao.
Also, people are calling the Sarge York OP? Lol. Lmao even.
I mean, the Sarge York can do an awesome job mostly at downtiers, which already ain’t a good sign. However, it excels against subsonic and transonic jets (which tend to be 9.ish) due to the amount of filler of its proxy round. The real trouble comes with the supersonic ones, which imo the XM246 while being 8.3 is the one capable to take them down due to the Gepards gun ROF.
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The 40mms on the York are middlin’ velocity and the radar is unreliable at best, meaning it has trouble even with subsonics and transonics, especially so if they have stand-off munitions.
Sure it’s not as fragile as other SPAAs but CAS can still strafe it to death, and autocannons on the ground can still pen the turret.
Name the most OP USSR tanks, then. It’s often the same pattern of conversation with similarly biased people, where they obviously have double standards.
Also defending M247 is hilarious.
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2S38 - Horribly undertiered
KV-1E - Undertiered
KV-220 - Undertiered
Object 292 - Undertiered
T-Series as a whole due to overperforming armor LoS and ERA/Kontact
Pantsir
Su-34/Su-30 because the KH-38MT is a fantasy missile that doesn’t even exist IRL
Su-25SM3 by extension of being a fantasy Kh-38MT slinger
Ka-50/52
Object 120 - Only because the thing is horribly undertiered and should be at 8.7 instead of 8.0
BMP-2M - Undertiered
Also, what’s hilarious is people thinking the Sarge York is OP.
York is definitely a God tier SPAA in its respective br, this is coming from someone who have zero interest in playing SPAA, I use it only to grieve CAS players after they bombed my mbts
It has one deadly combo, stealth ammo + AoE damage, which means pilot ain’t aware they are being shot at and your bullet doesn’t even have to “touch” their plane in order to damage them. They can put this thing at marketplace for $350 I would will be buying it with cash bro
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Yeah not like it still can kill T-series tank upfront by who knows what magic
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Unlike the other gun SPAA between 8.3 and 9.0 - Which it’s the highest tiered Gun-only SPAA btw - It doesn’t have access to APHE or APDS belts. All it gets is HE-VT, HEF-I and SAPHEI. I’ll also remind you that the SAPHEI only has 38mm of pen at max, so good luck trying to kill anything on the ground that isn’t paper mache’.
Can it overpressure MBTs? It takes a miracle of Gaijin’s spaghetti coding for that to happen, otherwise all it can do is spam rounds and hope it can disable their barrel and tracks before running away slowly because the Patton chassis is not known for speed.
2S38 was moved up a while ago.
KV-1E was moved up to its correct BR last session.
KV-220 was moved up a while ago, it’s effectively a Tiger 1E equivalent tank at the same BR.
292 is an armored tank destroyer with a lolpen round…
T-series don’t have over-performing armor in LOS, the armor is over-performing in the 0 degree aspect which is 68 degrees downward; ERA is correct according to NATO testing.
Pantsir is trash, and claiming Pantsir is OP is claiming Su-34/Su-30 is not.
CAS is indeed OP.
Ka-50/52 and Apaches are no where close to OP.
Object 120 does not have a laser rangefinder nor stabilizer for 8.7:
Better performing round, stabilizer, laser rangefinder:
Stab, LRF, similar round:
Stab, LRF, better round:
Stab, slower, LRF, similar round:
More mobile, standard rangefinder, similar round:
BMP-2M was moved up a while ago.
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Oh damn and you named Pantsir as OP vehicle thing that has so shitty lock that i can overspam it using apache and hellfires.
Both of them hillariously easy to kill yet you have a issue with them. Also stated that BMP-3 can be uptiered but both with 2S38 you have K/D less than 1.
Seems to be never tried to aim for weakspots. If that so well performing why you have negative K/D on T-80UD ?
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