Yeah no. Mig 29 is much better than f14 today
In ground? Not really no
TBF, vs sth like ZBD04A they are quite low. There is an argument to be made on whether the protection, extra rounds and sabot was worth all the sacrifices. Although I do think this low down gen 2 thermals are really nice and 20 second reload is not unthinkable considering they are 750 pen and u do have a 30mm.
ZLT11 also has one of the most powerful ammunition at just 9.7, I mean the VT-5 top ammunition literally the same one being use at 11.0. This thing is a bus without gun depression though lol
Its a fantastic tank mate with 6 crew, 3 x 50 cals, arguably should be 7.3
the T32E1 is a great tank for its BR to be fair, outwith the M103 and Conquoror it’s one of hte bets 7.7 heavies in the game?
APDS is great, the turret traverse is great, the 48kmph while not great, is not slow, it has good HP/PT, and a good reload, as well as decent armour
M1 Abrams is not ass.
its 10.7 with great optics and a 5 second reload and a 215 angle pen.
extremely mobile
the 2AV is not better, it lacks thermals and reload in comparison.
The M1A1 should be 11.7 its comparable BR’d tank is the leopard 2PL which the M1A1 is arguably better than bar in Thermal imaging quality.
Better round
better reload
more effective armour
about equal mobility
not got the leopard hump over the back
turret isnt as weak.
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I mean it is pretty annoying without depression or reverse, two almost requirements for light tank. Neither does it have any protection. Also the reload sucks.
It could have gotten better but the reload and BR, otherwise for sure 11.3/11.7.
Bear in mind the Object 120 is premium, but that shouldn’t make it immune to being placed in a proper BR. The PTZ89 is tech tree and yes, it is undertiered for 9.0BR - It could easily go to 9.3BR.
Then there’s the PLZ05 in the tech tree for West Tai and it’s also undertiered at 7.7 just like the PzH2K.
Also, I’ll admit I forgot that the BMP-2M finally got uptiered to 10.3
Hahaha this is one of the funniest copes I’ve seen.
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Complaining about the bmp3, that’s a new one…
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Still 8.7 is not a proper Br for the object 120, just the round by itself doent justify to be such a br since you pretty much deletes any advantage that the obj 120 have while keeping all the disadvantages that it has as it get completely outmatched at longer ranges against tanks with laser range finder, and there is are a lot of other tanks that have similar penetration at 9.0 aside from the ptz 09, while they still have better roeload, stabilizer better optics and lrf, like the type 74 or chieftain mk10, the thing is at 8.7 it is completely outmatched by even things like the brenus.
Btw it is not better that the of 40 at 8.0…
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What do you mean 100mm cannon, do you use the “fugas” rounds or that missile “knows were it is at all times” and produces superb “hits”. BMP-3 is very situational and unreliable at best. Yes when it catches the Leo1a1a5s and the like yes it works but the magic begleit with engine armor ohh boy there you get way too many hihiha moments.
Not to mention Swedish and German T-72s and the legendary armored Tam 2IP that can tank several shots. Yes against most lights and a lot of leo1a1s plus mbts-70s it works but anything with armor and you will struggle.
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Yes, the same 100 mm cannon, as I said, BMP-3 works best as anti-tank, staying behind and ambushing.
why don’t you play it before writing nonsense, it’s as big as a bus, of course no armor, with a low firing rate autocannon useful only against light vehicles and ok missiles that take ages to reload, 2gen thermals are good but not enough to classify it as op. Bdm-4 is a better vehicle
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Pretty sure this thread is about a different game, the BMP-3 and Object 120 must be OP in WoT or something
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I am the OP and I dont even understand how this thread got so off topic. Anyone who claims the 120 is op is just ass at the game. bmp3 however should not be 9.0
Well it’s as not as good as 8.3 M3 Bradley in any role but it’s soviet IFV so it get’s to be 9.0, it’s as simple as that.
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It does bro, I mean you look at the person’s record you will quickly see they are dogwater, especially USA mains… I mean like out of all the vehicles they could pick, they have to choose the more mediocre ones like obj 120 or turms lmao
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Did they really complain about TURMS ?
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Yeah. They said turms-t should go to 10.7 or something when it already doesn’t even perform at 10.3, and the he also said 2s38 is op as hell and should go to 11.3+, but someone pulled his record and he has 0.5 KD in it. If this isn’t gaslighting I don’t know what is lol
“I intentionally turn off brain when I play X nation’s vehicle bro”
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PhD in gaslighting.
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