When i used to only play germany I thought it was bs there was a tank with gen 2 thermals lower br than my 2a4. Reason I thought this was egregious is because I camped thermals all the time and if you do that it seems like a big deal because gen 1 sucks bad. And of course i never bothered to think about it having 4km reverse and 5 degrees of depression. Also i swear i couldnt pen the ufp with dm23 maybe you cant? Idk.
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I would understand if you were complaining about bmd 4 which is just better than literally every other 9.3 ifv (like how cv9030fin is at same br gaijin) but bmp 3 is just balanced imo. It has fine gun, good atgm but with long reload, 4s reload he, thermals and ess which are good combo for 8.0-9.0 enemies. Also you can turn urself into nato ifv with good depression angles by using suspension
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Ngl all of those seem just fine and not op for me.
105mm m4 is just heat (or hit) slinger at low br.
Pershings are okay but nothing more.
M46 is good but not smth WOW.
T32 is heatfs/apds/apfsds receiver, no thx.
T29 has ok armor, instagib gun, multiple hmgs which may be painful for enemy noobs.
Base m60… You cant be serious.
York may look like op because wow prox fuse no tracers but hey, look at china, pgz09 with tracerless a head rounds which are similar to yorks prox fuse rounds except pgz has thermals, rate of fire and smaller size.
Abrams is just ok and can do job if you are good enough.
The only really good vehicle I can recall is xm800t which I use at all brs (even got nuke at 11.3) because its small, fast and can destroy pretty much any tank if you have secret knowledge about weakspots.
Seems it depends who is driving it:
and yes, something is OP no mater how many nations have it, all nations have ARH missiles, that doesn’t make them not OP when you are fighting them in a plane with only SARH missiles.
Sure buddy. Whatever you say. Not a single person on this forum believes such a lie. You’re just trying to cope with the fact that you are a garbage player.
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Oh no, some randoms on the internet doubt that I throw matches in Ivan tanks.
Whatever shall I do?
I’ll just keep throwing, lmao.
Because you are incapable of doing anything but throwing.
Did I mention your logic is stupid? You “purposefully throw” in Russian vehicles yet want them to move up? When it is actually vehicles with good stats that go up?
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He also admits to purposely breaking the rules lol.
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He said he purposely throw the match when playing X nation vehicles, but it turns out that he also throw matches when playing his favourite NATO vehicles as well lol
“I purposely turn off brain hodl W haha”
^ I think it cannot be turned off because it was never turned on in the first place
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Did you get a degree at the Copium University in trolling?
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Upper front plate of Turms, if modeled in game correctly should be of T-72a some one correct me if I am wrong. The upper frontal plate in the area covering the driver should have around 400 to 410mm of protection against sabot rounds, there is an additional steel plate inserted in the frontal area to add extra protection this was done in 1982 if I am not mistaken. Dm-23 in the most protected areas in RL might not pen the 72-a. Thus, the game did in a way do a decent job of not allowing turret cheek and upper frontal plate non pens.
At times they allowed K-1 to degrade the penetration of kenetic rounds (some-what like K-5) which it was never designed to do so. (If anyone knows better please add to this part) That was one of the so called extra bounces that turms had. But that tank should never have gone past 10.0br, especially with that engine and turret rotation (no transmission of note). The premium leo2a4s would have at least a 3 second advantage in reaching any place on the map before turms players did. Had the advantage to get ready and fire in the week spots just as the turms took position.
KV-220 with 135mm pen against Tiger 2H- 2P, M26, T-29 of course super overpowered, how dare it challenge the Pershing and those fat cats. Br. 7.7, Panthers need a free run.
2s38 oh my oh my, directly to 14.3 every ones most feared IFV in the history of war thunder.
T-series from now on, no reactive armor set to 1982 standards (We can call it Obr.82 next update official leak), hint no range finder at all.
SU 30/34 R-60 missiles maximum. In ground battles guns only cost 1000 spawn points.
Ka 52 9K114 missiles, and that will also be monitored.
I agree Ka-50 down tired can be OP. The KH-38 missile is not fantasy, but I agree western planes do not have an equivalent in game.
did some Russian T-72 driver steal your girlfriend or something?
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Only if he can even get one to begin with lol
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It was kinda needed to powercreep it in a brutal fashion. it made high tier air unplayable for months.
REALLY??!!, so you want it to feast on BR 9.0 LEoA1A1, M60, OF40, AMX32, etc. Tanks with sub 350mm of pen. When TURMS was first released, the servers were flooded with them, and within days it received 3BM42 instead of 3BM22.
Sure it can go down to 9.7 for all i care just lose the 3BM42 then it can re-enforce the T-64B
T-64b has 3bm42 at 9.7, but I agree turms can remain at 10.3
The mobility and armor are. It can almost stop a long 88 to the UFP without angling.
Not really I see it quite regularly. It’s a very good tank.
It has a combination of APCBC and HEATFS making the gun very versatile. You also have excellent acceleration and mobility in general. Armor is decent considering the other two factors.
5 second reload excellent mobility and armor only outclassed by T-series. M774 isn’t that bad and the reload more than makes up for it.
M1A1 is OP, it performs almost identically to the M1A2 SEP which is 2 BR steps higher. Excellent mobility, amazing firepower, only downside is subpar armor.
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No, you’re horribly overtiered with regard to the BR you’re playing at and your skill.
Didn’t they move it up in the last BR change or am I misremembering. If it didn’t get moved up I agree.
Eh it only had an 85mm which would be quite weak at 6.3 especially since I think it only gets standard BR-365 which is 130 something mm of pen. Mobility is pretty average with poor reverse speed. Armor is only good if you don’t know where to shoot (turret ring).
If you can’t manage taking down a tank that has a 10 second reload you just suck tbh. I’ve played the Object 292 and there’s an incredibly low skill ceiling due to the fact you’re so limited by the qualities of the tank.
If CAS is overpowered then Pantsir isn’t. NATO CAS easily beats it. But it is over performing compared to other nations SPAAs.
T-series are easily defeated if you don’t suck lmao
Same BR as AMX-30B2 BRENUS what are you smoking?
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What are smoking amx 32 premium french tank is more than capable with dealing with turms at 9.3 I am not saying going down to 9.3 but it is faster more responsive and can reach places on maps way before turms can. Yes turms overall is a slightly better tank but facing Leo 1a5, 2k, tam2ip, 2c, begleit, kpz, M60 AMBT, sabra, galbatash 2aV is exactly what it should be facing. Anything that fires dm33 can face it from 9.3 until 10.0.
Bigger problems are maps not soviet tanks and equipment.