It does. Shafrir 2 is just 9D again essentially.
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Well…
It has a light difference.
I consider Shafrir 2 as AIM-9G with 9B motor instead of 9D.
But I get what you mean.
Yeah, Ayit is 9.7 material.
And it may have potential to be 10.0 if BR weren’t compressed?
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9B has a deltaV of 595
9D has a deltaV of 776
Shafrir 2 has a deltaV of 752
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Hmmm okay
Thanks for the correction.
But isn’t Shafrir 2 slightly shorter and slower than 9D while it has an uncaged seeker…?
Calling it 9D might cause miscommunication, I think.
it actually is bigger than a sidewinder
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There is a clear distinction in what I said. I did not say the Shafrir 2 is a 9D.
honestly should be 10.0 its just as good as the F.58 too good to be facing anything near the br of 9.3 and the its better than the AV8A at 9.7 so why is it 9.7 it has a really good engine compared to other A4s ive seen it out climb a lot of planes at its br
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Fine, I admit that I misunderstood your words.
But it feels like it is a bit confusing sentence.
You were supporting another guy who said that it has 4x 9D by counterclaiming OP. It may have caused misunderstanding (My fault is bigger)
Anyway, as long as we all three are disagreeing about OP’s Idea, because of same cause, I think we don’t need to shoot each other any further.
Thanks for the correction, and I disengage from arguing about 9D vs Shafrir 2.
The Ayit only relies on their missiles. That’s it.
2 very long range 9D and 2 more agile (because slower) Shafrir 2 with half the range. But both missiles aren’t braindead to use.
The reason why Ayit are so succesfull are most of the players at this BR range have no clue. They fly straight, dancing in front of you, forget about their flares and so on.
It’s the weakest flightmodel at 9.7. Even at 9.3 there is no plane slower than Ayit.
The only 2 planes at 9.7 with worse climbrate are the 2 Hunters. But it’s not that much and depends on fuel load. But Hunters are unbeatable in a fight, if they play energy. And as long as they turn, your missiles are useless.
All Harriers/AV8 are faster and climb way better.
And the fact most people ignore, now it faces 10.7, while even 10.3 is a challenge.
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built on the A4 platform with a amazing Dogfight performance of a platform
also most 9.3s have no flares and are completely defenceless like the F100A which mind is only a bit faster than the Ayit in a straight line stands a better chance against the 10.7 horde than the F86 does against it actually tragic that the Mig 17 has to fight this thing
also hunters are by no means slow fastest subsonic jets and can almost keep pace with the F100a on deck
Indeed, holy skill issue
who ?
And engine performance, and countermeasures existing.
The Ayit is a better Harrier at the same BR [for the purposes of random battles].
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The OP
yes thats what ive getting at it gets basically 4 aim 9Ds which are good missiles 18G and fights flareless planes with a very strong flight model due to engine improvements its a great plane no reason cant be 10.0 honestly
seems new to me probably why
He is new, but he has the nerv to say to other players skill issue
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i have met older players like pre beta and stuff and some of them do have massive issues but most newer players are bad honestly they play with no frontal lobe some new players ive seen are good tho
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i dont think its weak