And your too busy crying about the 76 brother
Yeah that thing
Says you son. Talk about panthers smth else, and stop talking abt KDR when you’re not better anyways
I don’t know how you have managed to just not read anything I have said.
Also:
You have a KDR of roughly 0.5 in the Panther D. I have 1.68. You are not in a position to tell others they have a skill issue.
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Read the thread before you judge. Everyone has their breaking point.
Which at least half the maps don’t allow or you’ll be borderline useless doing it, not to mention you aren’t capturing objectives which is what actually wins matches.
Until the Panther D this is a lie.
Is it not High Explosive Anti-Tank Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot?
You will face IS-3s and you will be happy.
A discarding sabot shell has a discarding sabot to put a small “Sub-caliber” penetrator inside a large diameter gun without increasing projectile mass so that it can reach higher velocities than a full caliber shell of the same material and since it’s mv^2, increasing velocity has greater impact than increasing mass. Later APDS designs went on incorporating dart-like designs and higher density materials to start increasing projectile mass again and that is beyond me.
Key take away: APDS and APDSFS rounds are small projectiles encased in a big wrapping to “plug” the cannon and make use of projectiles. They discard this plug because it’s not aerodynamically favourable to carry it with the shell.
What is HEAT?
Ammunition that explodes on impact and uses that explosion to force a jet of metal through the armour.
Notably, HEAT was used during world war 2 mostly as field gun ammunition, Stug ammunition, “rifle grenades” and man-carried launcher (bazooka, panzerfaust, panzershreck) munition
What is Heat-FS?
Ammunition that explodes on impact like above, and has a expanding fin to counter the issues early HEAT rounds faced.
Why does HEAT not use discarding sabot?
There is no need. We aren’t try to produce a high-velocity sub-caliber shot. We just want to lob a shaped charge onto the enemy armour.
People like to complain about US mains complaining more than US mains complain. It’s a wild phenomenon.
Uhh…Yeah. I think I confused it with chemical rounds. You know the thing that ERA protects your tank from.
And now you are complaining that people complain more than US mains are complaining about German vehicles.
No see, we call that an “observation”. It’s different. Complaining would imply a negative connotation. And while the use of the word “wild” could be seen as negative, in this case, as the person who said it, it was indeed not negative. More…of amusement.
Ahh…Yes. Observation. Something half the people and all of German Mains can’t do.
You didn’t, those are HEAT(FS) rounds. They just don’t have discarding sabot as there’s no need for such (unless there’s an exception or prototype that does have a discarding sabot, but the HEATFS tanks I know of just launch it as is). I guess in a way you could see the shell casing with the propellant and all that as similar to the plug and get confused by it.
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You could say situational awareness is not a common trait amongst German vehicle enthusiasts.
Thats what all the youtubers do. How though?
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The problem with being “fine” is that you will get defeated by any tank that plays by its strengths meanwhile you have none. This is especially important for heavy tanks that are meant to engage in head on duels against other heavies and mediums. For example, the 6.7 german m41 has 300mms of pen and is highly mobile as well as it’s armour being a bit trolly at times(I have somehow bounced a 75mm shot from a panther once in the US one), meanwhile the jumbo has alright armour, bad gun and bad mobility. The m41 can both flank and frontally kill the jumbo with ease, meanwhile the jumbo has to hope that they can get the first shot off. And mind you the m41 is a light tank.
While I am of the camp that would like to see it go down, at least back to 6.0; those qualities you list change dramatically depending on what type of match you get in.
If you get a down-tier; you have great armor, a decent gun, and okay mobility.
If you get an up-tier; you have bad armor, bad gun, better-than-okay-but-still-not-great mobility.
A Tiger II and an IS-2 will slice right through that frontal slope whereas you can bounce 22 consecutive rounds from two Panthers and a Tiger I with a moderate amout of angling. The issue comes down to, how often does the Jumbo 76 get an up-tier? For me, its fairly consistent. More so than down-tiers. Butnit could be different for others.