Any jumbo need to switch shells and shoot weakspots or literal pixels even against same-br enemies. You cant play jumbo without doing it.
But apparently doing the same thing against jumbo is too much for skillless playerbase
Idk i think its both overtiered and not. I dont have the most matches in it but ive never played it at 6.3, only 6.7 since i just keep it as my medium brawl type tank. Though its rarely my first choice of pull. In some maps its a monster with its mobility and reload with occasional trolly armor but uptiers are brutal. But a lot of 5.x tanks would absolutely be defenseless against it with only the MG port and wheel shot being the only means to stop it.
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I would agree.I think the 75 was bang on at 5.7. I can live with the Jumbo at 6.3 although I think many see it as an equivalent to the Panther and facing the Panther is where it should be.I guess for some they want the historical fights.At 6.3 the 76 will fight the panther but I see the 76 as more equivalent to the Panther than equal to the Tiger II .Maybe some would suggest the Panther goes at 6.3 then.Its never ending and you have to ask if it really matters.
I also question how much difference there really is in 0.3 BR , does the figure system between the games mean that much? If the system was done on say tiers so 5.7 and 6.3 were lumped into the same system would anybody really notice?
How many of us have to run a set of vehicles on various BRs due to lack of line up? If your line up of 4.7 suddenly has a vehicle drop to 4.3 or rise to 5 do you remove it from the line up?
Right now the 76 Jumbo is higher than the Panthers but lower than the Tiger IIs.
Which makes perfect sense.
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Ah you might have a point there. It also sits somewhere between WW2 and Korea histrionically.All makes sense when you think about it.Yeah you might be right.
Except it doesn’t, since 6.7 is a black hole that sucks up every single BR in it’s close proximity to itself. Jumbo can be viable only in full downtier, as soon as it gets 6.7 or 7.0 it’s dead meat.
Not really, id say in a 6.7 or 7.7 match you need to play to its strengths, you have better mobility than other Heavies which means for close nit maps you can play fairly agressive. Sometimes you just get too many enemies all at once but its just bad luck. For maps where theres a lot of corners and no long range sniping spots I would rather use the Jumbo than anything else on my 6.7 lineup.
Jumbo has a top speed of 35kph. It sure is better than Tiger 2h, but i wouldn’t call it better than other heavies. It’s average at best.
And in a match of 7.0/7.3 regardless of the map i wouldn’t even bother spawning in it since everything you meet will be a 2h at the very least anyway unless you are lucky enough to have germany on your team.
Eh 2H is a tricky one, honestly in a city fight theres two outcomes he pushes me and i take his track and keep him there forever or he has multiple friends and theres nothing i can do. Regardless i track them then scurry off if i can or sometimes I’m lucky and they shoot my transmission and non pen at which point i steal his barrel and eat him.
Yeah that’s why jumbo isn’t very suitable for 6.3 and i would rather see it at 6.0.
Tiger 2h is stupidly popular, you face it in large quantities in basically every match you play with the 76.
Like i said above i think it could be 6.0 but id hate to fight against it in 5.0 tank as he can play very aggressive and i would be at nearly every disadvantage. Fast reload stabilizer, good pen only weakspots being a wheel shot or a machine gun port and thats if hes not bushed up.
I play it at 6.7 and i think its okay, its.not great but okay, and when i have gotten a 5.7 downtier its a seal club fest
Tell me what vehicles do you even have at 5.0?
5.0 outside of US is basically a dead BR.
In USSR all you have is KV-85 and SU-85M which both you can easly bring to 5.3 to get better lineup.
In germany you only have the VK 30, sweden only has that 1 autoloading medium and Japan only has the Chi-Ri.
There are basically no nations outside of US with reasonable 5.0 lineups. Jumbo won’t face nearly any players with nothing better than a 5.0 tank
Sweden has the only good vehicle in its rank at 5.0 the delat torn and considering other vehicles most players skip the 5.0+ vehicles because they are pretty meh. I play all vehicles on all the nations i play. So 5.0 sweden is LVKV 42 (4.7) TD/SPAA Strv M/42 DT (5.0) PVKV 1954? (5.0)
Japan has both 4.7 chi to’s and the Chi Ri II 5.0 with M19 spaa, would’ve mentioned italy but its been a while and i think most of their 5.x is now 5.7 regardless playing these nations sucks because they dont get full lineups and full uptiers against nations like the US is hell. I know because ive both fough and played against Jumbo players, anyone thats actually a Jumbo fan will be nearly unkillable in a full downtier if you know how to play the map.
Bow we also need to talk about uptiers, each nation has more or less downtiers at their respective BR’s Japan for me was mainly 5.7 or 4.7 matches, sweden is just 6.0 lol
Even if thats true, one cannot ask for vehicle BR change just to be outside of current BR “black hole”. BR decompression is better way to go as it would fix many BR “black holes”, not just one you are trying to avoid.
Ofc, but with current gaijin’s attitude we can’t have that. Ground should’ve beeen extended up at least to 13.0 long ago
But they wont change BR either. They use special algorithm to change vehicle BR and until that algorithm triggers change BR will stay as it is.
How they actually determine balance is still unknown to us, but i wouldn’t be surprised if some algorithm was doing majority of the work.
No way a human can be this incompetent.
The other possibility is that the person responsible for it simply doesn’t care
It’s the algorithm. That’s what they said. But we don’t know what parameters it is using or what the threshold when change is triggered.
No wonder it is this bad then. If it’s an algorythm it won’t take into account anything aside of raw stats. No way it can make accurate judgement
You can say the same for many vehicles in this game ,hence so much ODL when the uptier rolls in