Why is Sweden the worst ground tech tree in the game? I wanted to grind Sweden so I put through the pain and suffering that is their low tier till 2.7 when I got bored of dying every 5 seconds, so I bought the Sherman thinking hey this must be good, everyone else says it’s good, and it’s a Sherman can’t go wrong with it? NOPE it’s the worst Sherman in the game. Can’t tank any shots at all, and has a horrible skin on top of that. I thought hey maybe I should just grind for the T-34 since that’s goo- NOPE that sucks too. I don’t know why it just can’t take any hits unlike the Russian one, it’s gun is still okay, very mediocre though I would rather have the British 75 - Yes I know it’s the best 75 in the game so pairing it with a T-34 wouldn’t be fair but still. So I got the Panzer IVs right? One of the very best tanks in the game, absolutely adore the German one so this one must be go- NO it sucks too. Better than the other two but still absolutely trash. HOW DO I PLAY THIS HORRIBLE NATION?
I have no idea how bad is it on ground forces, but boy it sure is on air
air it’s decent imo, I got up to SK60 easily F2P
I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest maybe you’ve forgotten what it’s like to play stock low tier vehicles with a low level crews. As far as your description goes, it’s the only thing that would account for the perceived disparity in vehicle performance.
It’s an unfortunate reality of how the game plays, for new players it doesn’t make a difference, for existing players they take a noticeable performance hit on vehicles they may already own.
you are literally complaining about copy and paste vehicles. there is not a SINGLE difference between the german and the swedish Panzer IV’s and not a single difference between the swedish and soviet T-34. They are the EXACT same, same armor, same shells, same turret speed, same everything. The swedish sherman has the same gun, more armor and a better engine with a better turret rotation than the british and US tech tree shermans at the same br. Maybe it’s a YOU issue? You’re crying and calling literal copy paste vehicles bad. “Ohh this german one is good but this exact same vehicle just in a different tech tree is bad” like what?
Sweden ground can be a bit of a hassle to get through rank 1 and 2. But rank 3 (BR4.0 lineup and the two 5.0 vehicles) is actually kind of good (Strv m/42 DT is a beast if played right). Then rank 4 becomes a small struggle as there really isn’t a good lineup to run. Everything rank 5 and up there is not really anything to complain about and many vehicles are even considered to be among the top performers of their BR.
Also, judging by your stats you aren’t really struggling. you might just be having a unrelated dip in performance.
Maybe. But most of my crews are low, as I’m not very good at the game. Though 9 second reload on a T-34 seems a little bit obscene.
The teams are different.
Except for the massive turret weakspot that everybody exploits.
Yeah I know I’m not good at the game. One look on my stat card shows this.
That was the reason I got the Swedish Sherman. I could not figure out how to use the STRV 41s and Lago 1 etc.
Maybe, but all of my kills come from the occasional full downtier where I get 12 - 13 kills in the Sherman because it’s physically impossible to die there excluding CAS.
As light tanks - I used to enjoy them for their relatively good armour for low tier and fast firing guns :)
I hate them for their 55mm penetration (Haven’t unlocked APDS) at 2.7.
Ah - well yes the APDS does help :)
True. The only reason I wanted to use the STRV M/41 or whatever it’s called is because it looks pretty :( sadly I can’t be bothered grinding the APDS which after everything you still face 3.7 like Shermans that you can’t even pen…
Uptiers are a pain at all levels - there’s really no answer but to hide from things you can’t kill, and kill the things you can!
That is true. Uptiers are only really irrelevant playing Britain because their tanks are good at +/-1 BR anyway
I spat out my drink at this wtf lmao
Sweden is good, it just takes a bit of getting used to. Their low tiers get apds- you have to get used to breech/crew sniping, though it wont last long once you get a bit further up. (260g filler APHE go brrrr)
3.7 has honestly one of the strongest lineups at that BR- SAV 20.12.48, Panzer IV/Pvkv II and Sherman III/IV, though as you dont have the SAV it is probably not as good.
At your BR my personal recommendation is to go for the 4.0 lineup- the III/IV is good enough you can bring it there. At that BR you get the T-34, Pvkv II/Panzer IV, Pvkv M/43 and Ikv 103 to boot.
Strengths around that BR are the wonderful optics of the Pvkvs and all-around good gun depression, and the reliability of the trio of mediums.
One thing you must learn now, however, is that armor is never to be relied upon, and that you should treat your tank as if it was paper.
Yet the grind for it is so incredibly tedious I’m skipping up to 2.7 because of it.
I’m absolutely fine with that as I play Britain.
That’s what I’m attempting at the moment. The PvKv M/43 seems okay just annoying it only gets uncapped solid shot stock but cool cannon.
I found the optics of the PvKv M/43 incredibly… weird like it’s too zoomed in and not zoomed in enough at all if that makes sense?
Yes yes yes yes yes
Yes I am struggling with this a little because coming from a Britain/Germany main where armour can 100% be relied on and abused.
Yeah, it takes a bit o getting used to. Once you do get used to it, it is wonderful, though.
Once you get APHE it becomes very good, without it it is meh at best. Low tier swedes really have the stock issue- though once you get to top tier you will find yourself pleasantly suprised on that front.
The 8.7 lineup is increndibl I could get nukes every day but it got kinda boring.
Thank you for all your help. Goes to everyone here as well.
There are only two options:
- You buy a premium tank and grind through the tree
- Or you do your best with every tank and grind your way to the top.
This is the way - sometimes you lose, sometimes the others win.
Sweden is not bad. It does have some vehicles that are quite rough, notably the early tank destroyer line is pretty bad, but it has a lot of good stuff too. The Strv m/42 DT is pretty good, the Pvkv II is absolutely amazing and makes a great lineup with the Finnish Pz. IV H, and you can also throw the Pvkv m/43 (1946) in there as a lineup filler. 5.7 is good with the Strv 74, and T–34-85, and Comet I. 6.7 is quite good with the Pbv 501 and Bkan 1C, and if you have the Kungstiger it becomes a monster lineup. And almost all of high tier is extremely good.