Seriously , flying any unlucky aircraft at br 13 will almost always pair you up with pay to win su30s , now for the russian su30 even if annoying you can dodge those r77s from wish even if they spamraam the whole game , but seriously the su30mkk with 6 pl12s??? Its insane you cant even notch them no matter what plus some rwrs have blind spot and don’t even warn you. Its been 4 months since november , either put it at br 14 or remove the pl12s
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money
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MKK is not without drawbacks (the radar is geniunely ass when compared to western mechanical radars) but yeah, it being at 13.3 is joke.
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tbh it seems fine , main issue is the pl12 spamraam that you cannot escape , plus the pl8s
Nah, like geniunely coming from F-16C back to MKK it feels like Im flying half-blind lol.
Good yes, better than AMRAAMs in some aspects, but notchable as any other missile.
The missile itself isnt the issue, its the missile count. 4x IRs and up to 6x ARHs is insane payload for the BR and relatively good airframe.
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This is a great example of the lack of br gradient, at 13.3 it’s really too low but at 13.7 it would already be too high. The lack of in-between BRs is a serious problem in this game
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I mean that’s an apples to oranges comparison. You are comparing one of the best mechanical radars to a Mig 29 radar.
The issue I have is that the Mig 29 SMT sits at 13.3, with a maximum of 6 R77s. Want to bring IR and you loose R77. F16s are in the same boat as the 29, being stuck with minimal missile counts. Overall it’s a decent airframe with decent avionics and a stupendus missile load for 13.3.
Things like the JF-17 get 4x ARH missiles and 2 IRs while this thing comes around the corner with 6 ARHs adn 4 IRs.
Both premium SU30s could go up to 13.7, but that would mean that a) they can see top tier b) they’d actually be at a BR where players would need to use their brains.
Because the superior F-15C is 13.7, because the superior F-18C is 14.0, because the superior F-18E is 14.3.
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there is nothing superior about f18s
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Im not saying its unusable mind you, but to claim its good would be a lie.
That was the case until last BR changes.
Yes the EFT and rafale absolutely mog MKK, no denying that, but i simply hanged back and provided support. PL-12s are more than capable of doing that.
Which neatly brings us to your second point
Sadly I doubt that premium hordes out of all possible suspects will have enough brainpower to adjust their playstyle.
Even then id rather shove MKK to 13.7 even with its current config.
That sums up the flaws of insufficient gradient really well
“Don’t hinder us from making money.”
Yeah mostly its premium bias keeping it at 13.3 for now, i would imagine after a round or two of sales gaijin will have finally considered it to have made enough and then have another look at its stats on the next br balance pass. It’s substantially better than most 13.3’s, but not quite as good as 13.7’s - as with all things 10.7+ there is compression at play, ideally it would fit inbetween but certainly would be way more balanced/less oppressive at 13.7 atm.
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mind you it has the the same arnament as the other op j11b(tho that thing has better radar and other stuff but i also think that thing could go to 14.0)
Holy statement
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Since this aircraft is really somewhere between the 13.3 and 13.7 BR, it’s actually very powerful in the 13.3 configuration, but in the 13.7 it would be a bit too weak compared to the competition (J-11B, F-2A, F-15J(M), etc.)
So, given these two options, Gaijin chose 13.3 because it’s a premium aircraft and they want people to buy it; at 13.7, with that blind and finicky radar, it would be… pretty average, or even a bit weak, especially if it were pitted against 14.3–14.7 aircraft.
And here we get into the topic of BR compression; it’s to blame for everything. If Gaijin stretched the BR to 15.7, the MKK could easily be placed at 13.7 without spoiling its appeal, and then the J-11B, F-2A, F-15J(M), etc., could go to ~14.0–14.3.
If we got such decompression, MKK could and should go to 14.0 if not higher to make more space for moving some of the 12.3-13.0 stuff up as well
There are many options; maybe 15.7 really is too much and 15.3 would be a better solution, but one thing is certain: BR still needs decompression.
For sure
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