Just leave it there and we can all call it a day.
You’ve stated previously that you willingly use HEAT-FS as your primary round at high tier. While you’re free to do as you wish the majority of the player base disagrees with such playstyle.
APFSDS was developed for modern warfare. It’s what is used in modern tanks to defeat modern tanks. HEAT-FS remains only against light targets (as you yourself mentioned) which are not the primary vehicle found in War Thunder. Several tech trees do not even have access to such light vehicles at high tier.
In real life a tank will not load ammunition until a target has been selected, but War Thunder being a game liberties are taken with what is / isn’t done inside a tank. What remains true is the usage of APFSDS against armored targets being the best solution. Gaijin’s restriction of this usage goes against the gameplay of their own game. They create useless members on teams who through no fault of their own can only watch helplessly while the enemy pushes in to their spawn.
High tier already suffers greatly from COD style gameplay. It doesn’t need further help.
While you’re free to do as you wish the majority of the player base disagrees with such playstyle.
I didn’t realise you had surveyed everyone.
APFSDS was developed for modern warfare. It’s what is used in modern tanks to defeat modern tanks. HEAT-FS remains only against light targets (as you yourself mentioned) which are not the primary vehicle found in War Thunder. Several tech trees do not even have access to such light vehicles at high tier.
In real life a tank will not load ammunition until a target has been selected, but War Thunder being a game liberties are taken with what is / isn’t done inside a tank. What remains true is the usage of APFSDS against armored targets being the best solution. Gaijin’s restriction of this usage goes against the gameplay of their own game. They create useless members on teams who through no fault of their own can only watch helplessly while the enemy pushes in to their spawn.
On the contrary tanks, will pre-emtively load a HEAT-FS as it effectively serves a dual purpose against armoured and unarmoured targets. It is after all a High Explosive ‘ANTI TANK’ shell, not a High Explosive Anti Material shell or Anti Personnel Shell.
High tier already suffers greatly from COD style gameplay. It doesn’t need further help.
You’re just presenting your opinions as if they are facts Vamilad, the only defensible statement you can really make is that a player with no alternative to HEAT-FS is disadvantaged compared to player using the same vehicle but with all the Shells unlocked. HOWEVER, the same is also true for any stock vehicle in the game compared to the same vehicle when fully upgraded.
You would have to find a way to meaningfully quantify the disadvantage of using a HEAT shell at top tier or to be specific 10.3 as you have suggest. Additionally, you would then have to isolate the disadvantage of using the HEAT shell from the disadvantage of being stock. Even if you were able to demonstrate a quantifiable disadvantage you would then need to establish a baseline by which you could determine if the disadvantage of the stock HEAT shell was excessive compared to other vehicles performance using their stock shells (Shermans using solid shot AP shells with no filler or ballistic caps, or T-54 using the basic APHE with not ballistic caps for example).
It’s really easy to say that using HEAT-FS at top tier feels like shit and make players useless but it’s extremely difficult to prove and as I’ve said above, you’re just presenting your opinions as if they are facts. The only reason I brought up my preference to use HEAT-FS and the success I’ve found using them was to provide an opinion to the contrary. Since we’re only discussing opinions and anecdotes I figure mine would be worth as much as yours in this topic.
Since you wish to live outside of reality I will avoid making further replies to you.
Do you promise?
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idk when youll stop this kind of gaslighting.
he never did this, i wish this charade just wasnt.
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@Armen_Lozone
Dude, stop trying to start arguments cause someone mistyped a year ago.
Stop accusing honesty of being lies, that’s just terrible.
Oh and accusing people of gaslighting is itself a form of gaslighting.
I get we agree on most things, but that shouldn’t upset you.
Abrams and Merkavas almost immune to HEAT ammunition, and non-tandem ATGMs also often struggle to deal critical damage, as soon as you see composite armor, they are resistant against such damage types, >9.3 you start seeing a lot of them with such attributes regardless of nations they all have them.
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idk ive had pretty good performance with even the standard TOWs against no ERA tanks
Post new threads = get yelled at for not using existing threads
Post in an old existing thread = get yelled at for necro
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Money money money must be funny…
It’s worse because it’s not even top tier, actual top tier gets APFSDS, the previous top tier now gets outclassed + handicapped with a mechanic that should have never existed.
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