For me add AIM-9L but decrease BR to 11.7 for Air RB & Air SB
You are vastly overrating the F-4J UK. It’s not as fast as you’re thinking nor are those radar missiles as crazy as you think when shot from a phantom. If anything people need to learn notching earlier anyway.
You can’t do both
he kinda is but kinda isnt.
The Skyflash DF would be the 2nd best radar missile at the BR if it was 11.7 (the R24R is superior on the Mig 23s but they have a far inferior radar)
However his argument still falls flat on its face when the missile basically exists at 11.3 with the Ja37C and F-4E both using AIM-7E2s (which are functionally Skyflashes), and with the JA37C having a PD radar at 11.3… and being Faster-
So yeah he isn’t overrating the weapon, more so is ignorant to the existence of this weapon at far lower battle ratings, on equal or superior aircraft.
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Correct. The F-4J UK should just go to 11.7 as 9Ls wouldn’t fix its place at the BR, it’s a platform issue in that regard. 11.7 with 9Gs is perfect.
The FG and FGRs however are too good to be 11.7 but they should get 9Ls due to the Viggen having them, on a better airframe-
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Necro but it is still so frustrating to have this at 12.0 while the Viggen sits at 11.3.
Absolutely must come down to 11.7 at the least.
We don’t need more compression.
Its not compression. This plane simply has no place at 12.0 in any regards whatsoever. You can make no argument for the F4J(UK) to be at its current battle rating.
It is compression. Sorry. 10.7-11.0s do not need to face PD phantoms. 11.0 already does, doesn’t need to do it more often.
Seek decompression. Do not ask for compression.
Well, in a worst-case scenario which Gaijin never decompress current compressed 11.0-13.0BR Radius
It might suit 11.7 in the current situation as long as it is worse than either the F-4J or F-4S.
However, just as the F-4J(UK) shouldn’t face F/A-18s, the Jaguar GR.1A also has the right not to face the PD Phantom.
I agrees this part.
Even though I want her down to 11.7BR badly.
It isn’t the best idea.
Yeah, decompression is ideal. But I think it won’t come within time because
1- It isn’t american/soviet jet
2- Its sales got discontinued, so refurbishing will not increase Gaijin’s payroll.
:/
While PD radar-equipped planes with Skyflash exist at 11.3, I don’t really want to hear any excuses. I’m not even asking for it to go to 11.3, but 11.7 is completely reasonable.
If you actually play the F-4J(UK), you understand.
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Pushing compression downwards will always lead to further compression. Now 10.7-11.3 will become incredibly unfun, so they get moved down. Then 10.0-10.3 becomes incredibly unfun. Repeat.
You refuse to make an argument for why the F-4J(UK) should be at 12.0 to begin with. It deserves to be at 11.7 regardless. It is balanced at that BR, thus no decompression.
Stop hiding behind compression non-sense.
It shouldn’t be lower, this is a compression issue. Ask for decompression
Curb stomps 10.7-11.0s. Large upgrade over F-4E at 11.3 which is already a strong 11.3
Not to mention this would be yet another case of “better play the premium instead of the tech tree versions”
You’re like a brick wall, huh? Give compelling arguments instead of repeating the same useless crap.
“Curb stomps 10.7-11.0s”? How exactly? I can tell you’ve never played this plane before. Maybe you should just stop embarrassing yourself.
Yep. FGR2 despite having notably weaker SARH missiles to the other F-4s at its BR, at least gets better engines and more CMs, that off-set it a bit.
The F4J(UK) is just sad. 0 excuse for it to be 12.0 even with the current compression and really should get Napalm too
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Ah, good memories… That is why some guys claim F-4K/M is the best 12.0BR jet…
Yes, she has cracking 74th RAF paint, but that’s all.
Maybe because, as always, WE need to pay taxes ‘for the greater good’.
It seems it is completely fine that F/A-18 and F-16A ravages the matches in the downtier
But it isn’t fine that F-4J(UK) rules the match (/s)
I really wonder why this gets delayed this much.
If we can’t get napalm on our F-4J, even though it technically can.
Then the USAF F-5A/C needs their ahistorical countermeasure pods removed too, because it is added because of nothing but ‘technically can.’
I really know that we need to talk about decompression instead of compression.
But sometimes… if everyone cheats in this compressed exam hall, why the heck are we not allowed to cheat as they do?
Almost three goddamn years since F-4S’s addition to WT, and since then until today, Phantom F.3 remains rubbish, and discontinued.
Well, this isn’t the worst. At least Gaijin didn’t forget Phantom F.3 to introduce, unlike Sherman IIA, the FnF capability of Brimstone, APHE shells from the USA in WW2. :/
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Just double standards. Britain for some reason is just held to a different standard.
Though Buc and Sea Vixen are also missing napalm so maybe they just don’t like Britain having much napalm sub 12.3?
Yeah, it’s fine some to be under BRed in the current compression (like the F18s) but the F4Junk to be under BRed would be unfair
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Wtf is avionics+?
F-4J(UK) does get SUU-23 gunpod at least…
It’s something! (But not much…)
Might get some flak for saying this
But, if there is any technical capability of F-4J(UK) to fire AIM-7F, it should get it. Simply because balancing and giving it some better firepower. If my memory serves me right, those were all modernized F-4Js brought to similar standard as F-4S but without dogfight slats.
Just my two cents.
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