I was thinking about F-84F and F9F compared to F-86A when writing that comment
Sorry for being ambiguous at that moment. :'(
Anyway, back to original topic,
I don’t think F-4J(USN) need to go down to 11.7 because of ‘lack of wing slats compared to F-4S’
imo the f4s/j need the extra flares the most rn bc they dont really fire their CMs in a smart way, they just spam their flares upwards
If the F-4S could receive aim9L it would be fine at 12.3 like the EJ kai
yes, the f4s could carry the same pods the av8a gets, i can carry 4 of them giving the f4S 960 CMs + the 60 in the airframe, you wouldnt even loose anything important by carrying the flare pods, you would only loose the bombs, i see that as a win-win scenario
1020 CMs is definetly not enough CMs. Give it BOL too :P
so true!
No offence, but man, really this comment shows why we need decompression badly
I think F-4S owners will burn the forum down if they become 12.3BR
As long as F-4EJ Kai has 30 extra CM with better RWR/Radar.
My line of thinking was that the EJ kai has better radar/rwr but lacks HMD
have you used the F-4J HMD?
HMD is certainly useful, but as even seen with aircraft like the Typhoon vs Rafale. Without a good off-boresight missile, the HMD value is lost a bit,
The greater difference is the Agile Eagle
Yes, I know, its high prf but still is a useful feature since you can spam locks where you know the enemy is, without prior alerting them with your radar search and fire a missile in quick succession. Or if the target is spotted by your team.
Implying having extra options makes you worse is peak forums take
F-4J is undeniably worse than F-4S
no. move all things higher up. its a compression issue not the phantom being a bad plane
MLD would be ok at 12.0 in air RB, but the ML and MLA can’t go up due to their abysmal RWR and relatively poor radar. Good luck facing Aim-120s and good 4th gens with Spo-10.
Mig-23MLD is inferior to F-4J in all ways except dogfight capability where they’re more equal than different.
Sure, but its not lower br worse.
because gaijin doesn’t care, the plane has been like this since launch.
Yeah playing f-4j rn and i just can’t understand how it is the same BR as f-4s while f-4s is better in every way
Also radar is a big pile of crap tbh unreliable af, mig-23mld radar is way more reliable even though it’s technically worse
not the case
It is the case, i’ve played them both and came to this conclusion