Why is China getting the AGM 179 on It’s new AH-64E

Happens every damn time

Has a good discussion, everyones having a good time

that 1 dude who has a few screw’s lose

HAHA FUNNY ANTI-TAIWAN POST HURRRR

everyone having a good discussion seeing the post close = :(

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Like either support the copy-paste in Taiwan, or don’t.
But don’t make it some political crusade…

I support it because it’s easy and gives a cool helicopter for more people, and Taiwan gets its service vehicle.

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Personally i’d like to see more taiwan stuff, I think taiwan is pretty cool

but like why politics to solve everything? This is a game not larping as a world leader simulator

(Currently slowly grinding for the taiwan kiowa cause kiowa = funny)

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Do you have the link to the source?

Are you suggesting that even if nation hasn’t used the JAGM-MR (and not even ordered it), they are able to receive it because it’s compatible? That would open a lot of new avenues I’m sure you would disagree with.

It opens nothing, because this has been the rules since the beginning of the game.
AH-64Es getting JAGMs is just following the over decade old rules.

I don’t have a link on my desk, it’s buried somewhere. If I find it again, I’ll share it.

Smin has said that as long as the aircraft can use the weapon, it can be considered to be added

Granted, the Taiwanese AH-64E lacks LDIRCM in real life so if it ends up getting JAGMs and no LDIRCM, it’s clear the Z-10ME is the better choice. (Kinda a redundant addition imo)

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No it opens a discussion about compatibility vs being used operationally. Devs have denied reports on the basis of the systems (like bol pods) not being used operationally.

No exports have been done for the JAGM-MR yet export 64Es are getting them. the Dutch is able to get the JAGM-179a (which is not much better than romeo) and the Taiwanese/Indonesian are stuck with regular hellfire.

Devs have never denied weapons that were in manuals and documentation.
F-4F isn’t limited to 9Bs in-game as the prominent example.

Again, these rules have never changed.

Edit: And before someone mentions weapons better than their BR.
Weapons better than their intended BR or actual BR are options if they ever intend to change the intended BR of a vehicle.

Not going to get political, but Taiwan is a bit of broken record in WT for them being on the good side of the Chinese players. So, you know…

Imho they shouldn’t even get it, but that’s not my decision to make.

m829a2 is better then the dm53

still not the reason why China should get 64E especially before the actual operator like Britain.

Especially fresh after the VT-4 debacle, I agree

meta-wise it’s redundant especially when the Z-10ME is getting the BA-11 this patch, bringing it more in-line with the US AH-64E. A more deserving nation like Britain should’ve gotten one for sure.

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What F-4F are you referring to? Both the 10.3/10.0 use Js and Es


Except that the JAGM-MR hasn’t been cleared for exports and haven’t been past it’s trials yet. So unless an Taiwanese Ah-64E has it in the manuals stating that it can use JAGM-MR, then it can’t.

It is the same reason why, despite the A-10C’s manual specifically stating not to load the triple launcher maverick next to a targeting, it carry it in game. i wonder why?

Again, it comes down to being used operationally vs compatibility. The devs flip flop on this hence the double standard.

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Because the manuals of the A-10C also say that it can use the triple launcher next to the targeting pod.

It was never an absolute restriction, it was a “we’re concerned about the fire blast on the pod” suggestion.

The standards have never changed. There have been no double standards, as much as your posts are demanding that double standards get added to the game.

Iirc that was for Litening, not ATP

Well then. The Meteor is compatible with the American F-35B, so is the ASRAAM on the F-16C… etc etc

Did you read the manual? It specifically says:
“Do not load LAU-88 with live AGM-65s next to a targeting pod.”

you’ll have to provide sources on that claim


The reason why they changed it because Lockheed did a test and it proved that the Sniper ATP can be mounted adjacent to the lau-88.

So like I said before for the third time, there is a double standard

Yes, I’ve ready many of the manuals.
That specifically is a suggestion to crew, not a hard restriction.

Thanks for proving that there are zero double standards.

Keep in mind, said weapons can be up for consideration but it’ll ultimately be a balancing factor whether the vehicle in question gets it, which is probably why we haven’t seen certain weapons on specific vehicles. (look at how many weapon reports are blocked or left in limbo on the bug reporting website because Gaijin devs are arbitrary on their interpretation of balance)

What’s likely happening is JAGMs are being given as a blanket to Indonesia, Netherlands, and Taiwan to give those nations a 10+km F&F ATGM for their helis. (Although I really question why the AH-64E was added to Taiwan now when the Chinese tree already has the Z-10ME and they just recently had controversy regarding their export tank).

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