Why hasn't the F-15EX been added yet?

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USA still doesn’t have a 14.7 vehicle, and the F-15EX is the perfect addition to bring the USA to top tier (Israel too, their max BR plane is the F-15E at 14.0). Extremely busted vehicles such as the SU-30SM2, Rafale have been added, but still no EX?

The EX would be a decent improvement over the 15C GE, with 4 more AIM-120’s, increasing the total to 16. Way better engines and avionics ect.

I’d guess that they’re saving it to add together with the SU-35, but the problem is that the SU-30SM2 in game is almost identical to the SU-35. It has the same radar, same amount of missiles, extremely similar flight model ect.

They recently added the AIM-120D which does nothing and is basically a copy of the C-5, which in itself is worse than the AIM-120A/B.

Whats the reason for keeping both USA and Israel behind compared to other nations?

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GE is a shadow of EX, It could do most of the job an EX do, except the initial BVR climb and 4 additional missiles. Just hope they don’t increase the BR of GE.

AIM 120D is decently good, in fact this is what a modern Fox 3 should do, every other Fox 3s after the 90s should have the same level of chaff resistance of the 120D in-game, and 120D itself should be much better. The current engagement distance is still too close and they should make it much further to real-life level.

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EX and GE would be pretty similar in game yes, but the EX is still a nice improvement that could definitely help both Israel and USA.

120D has the same exact chaff resistance as every other missile in the game except the MICA. All missiles require 1 chaff per second to be kept in IOG when MICA requires 1.5.

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Better IOG is a way to improve chaff resistance, making low speed notching much harder. You can no longer lose energy like nothing.

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You’re dead to anything at top tier if you get slow anyways, 120D doesn’t change anything.

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It’s not ready.

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The EX? It surely cannot be THAT hard to implement, the engines already exist in game, its radar is pretty much the same thing as the C GE, it gets the same missiles ect. What about it takes so long to implement?

Give the F-15E F-110-129 engines, copy paste the F-15C GE radar and loadout, and give it double rack AIM-120’s, BOOM you get the EX.

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Aim120d doesnt have better chaff resistance

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No, but it is better at relocking after losing out to chaff, which is a sort of ‘notch or chaff resistance’.

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Not really?

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I def felt it had a few more occasions of just ignoring evasive maneuvers and just taking out like one of these high flying EF or F15.

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they probably werent chaffing,

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the disrespect lmao, you just described the modern F-15E (with no MAW) and called it an “f15ex”

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well i mean that’s what F15EX is. It’s just F15E with new radar and more missile racks, hardly an improvement to be game changing and will still lose to other 14.7 but I don’t think it can be 14.3 either, oh well

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It would get spherical RWR and MAWS with good speed and acceleration. Along with that 16 A2A missile would be very good for current meta

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yea for BVR it’s definitely an upgrade over the F15C GE thanks to the better engine from F15E, but other 14.7 would still wipe the floor with F15EX in a turn fight cuz F15EX have a much worse flight model

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I’d estimate it’s flight model to be somewhere between the F-15C and the F-15E

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it’s safe to say that it’s worse than F15E because it’s still a two-seater and the additional missile makes it heavier and more drag

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Pretty sure it uses some other material for its frame which makes it lighter then F-15E. Also why would you be dogfighting with missiles?

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the latest F-15E’s are actually fairly similar to the F-15EX’s except for the improved payload, MAWS potential, engines (GE-129 vs PW-229) and FBW (which may not matter for WT besides maybe sim)