Yet has functioning CCIP and CCRP and a radar gunsight that works, the 4S has none of the sort.
So you’d kill for a HUD that makes you miss and gives you incorrect flight data?
It’s CCIP is horrible to use.
It doesnt have any form of CCRP symbology
The gunsight barely works.
Better than none
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Huge skill issue, it has a decent radar and decent missiles up to 7-8km, perhaps its only flaw is its IR missiles, if I can do well with the Japanese F4EJ ADTW with 7Es, and a horrible radar, you will certainly do well with the F4S, unless you are a low level
You propose that inexperienced F4 players attack bases, just to make life difficult for those who play A10, Su25, Tornados, genius
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Cannon, rocket and bomb CCIP actually hit where the pipper is, it is actually accurate unlike the 4S’s.
Thats what the dial is for in bomb mode. It used to give you heading adjustments with the little dots on the edges, but as already stated, gaijin broke that at some point.
The 4S’s bomb CCRP is the only mode of the HUD that gaijin has not screwed up so yes, point for that.
Does indeed work, and shows range on the dial, jitters far less than the 4S’s.
You are still acting like the 4E derived sights don’t work at all, they do, and they give you correct information unlike the 4S’s HUD.
The only feature that the 4S currently has over the 4E HUD is for CCRP bombing, which used to not be the case before gaijin broke the 4E HUD.
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One person wouldnt make a deal
Its “garbage” imo bc of br compression, the f4s in a 12.0 vaccum is quite nice, but at 12.3 there is like 3 f4s obliterator MK1000 (f18a, f16a, mirage 2000cs4 and maybe the f20 aswell), and at 12.7 you have stuff like the mig29, imo the f4s would ve a bit better if it got its extra flare pods so you can at least defeat irccm or the spam of radar missiles, or even fox 3s in a full uptier
Hey uh… the F-4S is amazing, it has slats to improve maneuverability, HMD, AIM-9H is an amazing IR missile, and the AIM-7F is a perfect missile excluding the tracking issues. My most flown aircraft by far the the F-4J (UK), and it’s worse in literally every way bar energy retention, it’s still an amazing aircraft that I love to fly out, SkyFlash as opposed to AIM-7F (Worse range, long range pull, tracking etc) and 9G as opposed to 9G, no HMD, it also has no napalm. The F-4S is THE best 12.0
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Dont argue with them, they fall under the same category of player thats trying to get the kfir and mig 21 bis to move down to 10.7. They keep getting killed trying to bomb bases in these FIGHTERS and come here to complain.
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Well thats true
The seekers on all the long range sparrows are functionally identical stat wise, bar duplicate sparrows for some very select aircraft, eg the F-20, which has 4500 transmitter power rather than the standard 200 that every other non modern PD sparrow has bar the P which also has 200 for some reason. Guess they gave the sparrows on the F-14s, 15s, 16s, and the F-20 higher transmitter power to mimic how the higher power radars would come into play without having to put in the work? Same goes with some other seeker tweaks like sidelobe sensitivity. Odd then that the 7P does not have the same buffs.
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Just use it as an bomber then It a fighter bomber. If you can’t use it as an fighter then use it as an bomber which is it other roles.
Honestly, seeing the claim that F-4S is garbage makes me feel a lot much older…
It was originally one of the best premium jets, and partially considered as proof of American bias(debatable)…
Maybe it just became a victim of compression and those F/A-18 gangs which are generally undertiered?
(Especially these 18A ones.)
I still think that F-4S is still better than the majority of Rank 7 premiums for grinding purposes in ARB…
AMX A-1A, WTD61 brothers, AV-8B(NA), Harrier T.10, F-104S-TAF…
Oh, and F-4J(UK) which is inferior than F-4S in all aspects.
the 9H kinda suck and iirc the Navy version of Agile Eagle bleeds more speed + F-4S is a naval phantom which makes it heavier, but other than that it seems pretty good
Yeah, I think F-4S is not bad enough to be called ‘garbage’…
It might not be No.1 premium anymore, but still, it seems that it didn’t lose its fangs and claws.
Maybe F-4S itself still can be considered as above average.
Current problems which F-4S players complain about sound more like a compression problem to me.
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Sparrows could use a look at by technical mods as they still sometimes fuck off in random direction (different to them going after plane that isnt locked but within radar ls ilumination cone) and its triggered at random.
Other than that it works.
Ah… I forgot about ‘The Sparrow Moments’… :|
Ye. Partly reason why I love 7Ps so much. They fix most of the Sparrow issues with the IOG and DL combo.