The F-4J UK does not lack bombing munitions in general though.
There is a difference between a vehicle lacking a munition class [IR AGMs vs laser AGMs] and a vehicle lacking munitions over another aircraft [F-18C Finn vs other F-18Cs] where it has to be proven the one that can’t carry weapons indeed cannot carry weapons.
Yeah. So the US is fine. But UK, japan and China?
Doesnt necessarily gurantee anything
It is the same BR as the F-4S. Its direct premium equivalent, but has no agile eagle, no HMS, weaker AAMs and no Napalm. It is the weakest 12.0 in game
Thats another problem on its on, this post was about the ah64e for the American tech tree (the British also have one which is really frikin good)
I have no idea what heli to add to the swedish tech tree
Tho
Its been 5 years since Britain got a top tier heli. Definetly time for the AH-64E, or even the Wildcat with its 20x Martlets
Same for the us (except the other trash helis)
Imma use chat gpt to find out what sweden could possibly get
Fyi, those are NLOS, which are much different than the Spikes ingame. It would play like the missiles added in the 2021 April Fools event
So even IF we get AH-64Es. Doesnt necessarily mean FnF for them anyway then. The latest chinese heli should have had IR FnF AGMs but they were probably way too good for the game right now (like 15km range)
The most reasonable heli sweden could get (according to chatgpt) is the Eurocopter (tiger) or MH-60M
Yeah, I have no idea on what they have/had IRL, but if thats the case, wierd they’ve not gotten the TIger yet
There is a reason why AI is not accepted as a source, and that is because the 60M is US only.
And I don’t see any way of Sweden getting a Eurocopter
Yep. Theyre electro-optically guided
Yep, so we are back to the crux of the problem. MMW.
I really dont understand why they dont just add placeholder IR seekers for them as a short-term bodgejob. They did it for PD MAWS. We had the F-111A’s UV MAWS on the Harrier Gr7 for over a year after being told for 5 months that the Harrier Gr7 couldnt get MAWS at the same time as the F-111A because it used a different type of MAWS.
I am from sweden my self and we only have the blackhawk
I was just trying to think of something we could get, as we actively don’t have any attack helis in use right now and never have had any attack helicopters
Any idea if they can carry any AGMs?
For the moment it’s only a transport helicopter sadly but we do have an aws heli i think
(I have no idea how true this is as im not in the military)
mmW can be countered a good amount if multi spectral smoke gets added, but that’s if
Right. So there isnt much different between mmW, limited to LOBL modes and with Multi-Spectral smoke added and IR Seekers if im not mistaken.
Just really wierd that there has been nothing, not even a flicker on the state of mmW since Brimstones were added 9 months ago, and the situation has only gotten worse with the increase in compression with the new SAMs
”Under the agreement approved by the U.S. Department of Defense in June, in addition to the helicopters, Sweden requested the purchase of:
- 30 T700-GE-701D engines (24 installed, 6 spare)
- 17 AN/AAR-57 common missile warning systems (CMWS)
- AN/APR-39C(V)1/4 radar warning receivers
- Laser detectors AN/AVR-2B
- AN/ARN-149(V) Low Frequency Automatic Direction Finder Receivers
- AN/ARN-153 Tactical Air Navigation Systems (TACAN) Transmitter-Receivers
- Radar Altimeters AN/APN-209
- Emergency Locator Transmitters (ELT) EBC-406HM
- Enhanced Ballistic Armor Protection Systems (EBAPS)
- Internal Auxiliary Fuel Tank Systems (IAFTS)
- Fast Rope Insertion Retrieval Systems (FRIES)
- External Rescue Hoists (ERH)
The total estimated cost of the helicopters and their associated equipment and logistics support is $900 million.
The new UH-60Ms are being brought in to replace Sweden’s fleet of nine NH90 land variant helicopters (local designation HKP-14E), which will be decommissioned early after years of dealing with delivery delays, logistical difficulties and poor performance.”
I think this still is only a transportation heli tho
That’s the UH-60M, which is used for things like transport as far as I know, not with weapons