Why doesn’t the F-104.ASA get access to its 6 missile loudout? And why is it at 12.0?

From what I understand the ASA should be able to carry 2 AIM-L, AIM-9J and 2 Aspids(or at least 4 AIM-9L and 2J)

Why doesn’t it get this loudout? And why the hell is it at 12.0?

They should add its AIM-9N-2’s since most Italian F104 can use it and the F-35 would be better than the 9J

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I’ll take what I can get at this point. 4 missiles and no gun at 12.0 is just not amazing.

9N-2 have reduced smoke motor and have 3.5s burn time rather than the 2.5s
9N-2

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Should be similar to 9M esq smoke would be nice addition since quite a few vehicles use it

Heres another image of the AIM 9N-2

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I domt know if anyone has done a bug report for the Italian Starfighters, im not sure if it was just a test or in service esq munition (shouldn’t matter) currently the F-35 has none of the missiles it used IRL as the 9N in game is just a copy paste J but its also not the 9N-2 if any one else has info id love to read since im less familiar with Italian weapons.

Probably because ASA only used AIM-9L irl and as it wasn’t save to carry Limas on the fuselage pylons, such configuration wasn’t even mentioned in manual.
Italy have never used or had AIM-9J, they were added when there were no other top tier possibilities in the game, actually they could be removed from F-104S and F-104G (leaving Turkish F-104S where it’s, because they used AIM-9P on Starfighters actually) in exchange for lower br and worse missiles, although it probably won’t happen until they do something to napalm bombing meta.

Idk honestly, Gaijin also can’t give it additional fuel tanks and workable ECM (not sure how it could help).

Sorry I don’t speak Danish, but as I understand there were Italian T-33A firing these missiles, not Italian F-104s.

Didnt the f104s asa test carried the aspide with the arh seeker?

Any difference? Sorry im not familiar enough with Italian air to really know whats different with their aircraft apologies

But the image at the top right looks very much like a F104? It even says it was test fired and lists the aircrafts id

Nevermind apologies had to read further down its one of ours

Yeah it mentions our own T-33A test fired the missile and that it was later sent to Italy and to have them use their T-33 to mount decoy tow targets to undergo test fires

Completely missed that, ive never heard of a starfighter being called a T-33A

It’s Danish F-104 in the picture, T-33A is a trainer, actually I didn’t know that there were missile equipped variants.
I mean it would be very hard to persuade Gaijin to add this missile for Italian Starfighter based on this information.
PS Italian F-104G doesn’t even get 4 Sidewinders for example, but 2.

It’s probably just Shooting Star trainer modified to carry missiles.
Like this one:

Yeah i completely skipped over reading the bottom part, often forget we used starfighters but its still strange to see them.

Though we do have vehicles in game using equipment they never used for balance so you could argue that they could get the missile for the sake of balance tbf

This is F-104 in the picture:

Yeah i went and checked afterwards

Well the text states test firing was done with T-33A but given the image is a starfighter i dont see any reason it cant be guven as a suggestion as a slight buff for the Italian models right?

The policy for snail is that the vehicle be able to mount it

Anyway to confirm if this is a ASA?

Honestly I’m not a fan of this “technically possible” and trialed stuff. I’d rather have br decrease. Let this missile be a Danish Starfighter unique feature, would be an additional reason to add it.
Imo we already have too much of “technically possible stuff” removing any possible uniqueness of similar planes used by different nations.