So can a Su-30
Any jet up high with good missiles, Radar and flight performance can pressure any other jet.
I have pressured a MiG 29 in a Tornado using Skyflash up high.
F-15 has one party trick and it’s that flying high with lots of missiles.
Su-30 has more than one party trick and I would wager 1 v 1 the Su-30 would come out on top 75% of the time.
How? do you seriously think the Rafale and EFT weren’t planned and likely already almost done for the december update? and the Hornet and Su-30SM were also likely already way in the works and planned for the march 2025 update.
I don’t see how a plane getting an engine that was already being added on another plane accelerated anything.
yeah, it wins the 1v1 because that thing can just flip its nose around and look at you the whole time and fling an r73 and kablooey youre dead. But from my limited top tier experience, the early climb and BVR joust decides a win, and thats where the f15 shines, so yeah, its a one trick pony, but god damn is it a good pony
It stopped the US receiving probably a more capable F-15C
and instead they just upgraded the engines on the F-15E
In all regimes, not just close quarters
F-15 is faster I agree with you, but 120s from 40km away are so easy to defend against
As the distance reduces and the altitude inevitably decreases the Su-30 has the advantages.
Superior radar and payload all come into effect, R-77-1 is better at shorter ranges and if you want to guarantee a kill shoot off an R-77-1 while locked send an R-27ER after it.
F-15 has 120s and 8 of them great missiles but in certain situations they are weaker than the R-77-1
Aim9M is also a great missile but not as flexibile as the Su-30s options.
Except that the aircraft would have been a directly inferior aircraft to it’s Israeli counterpart, adding the engines to it made it identical, thus, actually balanced. The E as is, is fine, yet, still a frankenplane like most other US aircraft as it sports equipment that indicate it is a far later model (JHMCS, GBU-39) yet has equipment that was divested long before said late model components (LITENING, pre- E GBUs).
Nah that started with the KA-50 and peaked with the KH-38MT, that imbalance has yet to be resolved to this day. The best A2G weapon the F-15E sports is the AGM-65D which is grossly inferior to the KH-38MT and is backed up by an inferior targeting pod to what the current Russian CAS options sport, namely because the MT itself has a comically good seeker. Until the KH-38MT is removed, no nation can come even remotely close to Russia in CAS quality.
honestly i rarely see anyone shoot aim120s from that far away, >30km seems to be the norm
I don’t think the simple engine change would have stopped Gaijin from adding an aircraft that they were already working on.
I think they knew the Hornet would be getting it’s own update in march anyway. In their infinite wisdom they thought that the 18C Late would be a EFT/Rafale counterpart so I don’t think they bothered with a better F-15C yet because of that.
Even at 30km 120s are not scary, as long as you determine where the missile is coming from and defend correctly you can beat most 120s.
For a good while the US 15E one was straight up better because the 15I didn’t have mavs.
in the rafale? yeah easy, just turn around and go faster, for other jets though i think its a bit more work and most players are lazy hah
Gaijin and the community had no idea how potent the Eurocanards were going to be…
Honestly it’s like complaining the Spitfire and 109 are good in game…
Even now both are held back from IRL performance
I do see a Su-35 and F-15EX for the xmas update
Ha ha I cant legislate for lazy alt tabbed players ha ha
Can notch missile in anything with a littel chaff and direction changes you can notch 120s
im part of those, i wasnt ready for how stupid fast the rafale was and i ripped probably 30 times at least when checking something out alt tabbed
If you mean exclusively in A2G, the lack of the 229s with the added weight meant that the F-15E’s flight performance was abysmal for it’s BR due to it’s girth and vastly inferior to the F-15I. Such is far more important in actual gameplay.
Yet, one of the primary things people who were asking for the 229s also asked for was the F-15I to get it’s mavs as well, along with both getting the IR guided AGM-130s, which, they did.
Both aircraft became identical which is the best outcome that could have occurred imo. The I does still have more countermeasures but eh, thats fine.
Rafale is the top jet in game it’s incredible and it should be!
Same with Typhoon the speed I ripped while guiding a Brimstone with the throttle at 70%…
was too busy using the pod to guide the missile!
The lack of mavs hard limited the F-15I significantly in terms of multirole. It could only mount LGBs if you wanted to take the wing mounter A2A missiles. If you wanted to take the IR GBU-15 you couldn’t take the wing mounted missiles, which meant you would either have to give up the rest of your CAS loadout for A2A or run no A2A missiles at all.
Mavs got added a month later yes, it doesn’t have AGM-130s.
But yeah I do agree that the current outcome is the best, just saying that the F-15I was not flat out better than the F-15E during the dev servers.
Once again, having almost 5000 kgf more thrust is not a minor difference, and their performance on dev showcased that, the F-15I was a rocket, reaching mach 2 like it was a suggestion, while the F-15C MISP II in the US tech tree was overall the better plane when compared to the US F-15E as it is slightly lighter.
The GBU-15 / AGM-130 mounting issue is a ongoing problem for both aircraft as both should be able to mount AAMs + those two pieces of ord via a spacer, same deal with the wing mounted paveways.
Should still get the 130 too, more things to work on sadly.
But in the end, prior to the engine addition, in RB air, the F-15E had vastly inferior flight performance to the I, yes, it had worse A2G capabilities, but in ARB, A2G performance is largely a secondary concern, if not tertiary in today’s climate.
Thinking about it more this is also why gaijin is somehow fine with the Finnish F/A-18C being the same BR as the US one, A2G abilities are not taken into account when balancing for ARB, only A2A abilities. For both of these planes their A2A abilities are largely the same bar the Finnish F/A-18C missing the JHMCS which is a major issue, but, to gaijin, not enough to have it be at a lower BR. It should get the JHMCS regardless though.
lol i also ripped when i was blacking out and didnt throttle down enough or too slowly, the acceleration is genuinely so stupid, and since my mouse is old i cant scroll to 101, just 104 so i still end up too fast its kind of funny since most french jets are underpowered, and bam, now youve got TOO much power T_T
the thing is that they couldnt have copy pasted the US F-18 then
the finnish f-18 with the MLU, which gets a HMD, has a completly different cockpit ftom the US one
ontop of gaijin being lazy and went on copy-pasting they also copied the wrong cockpit for the finnish hornet
rn it gets the same cockpit as the F/A-18C late, even tho it should have the F/A-18C early cockpit
you can easily tell that because the finnish hornet has a knob in the cockpit controlling HMD brightness
as it stands i think the finnish F-18 was just a afterthought for this update
good example is all the US hornets getting atleast 1 ingame camo,
while the finnish one didnt get any and now only has a marketplace camo which is comunity made
