Why does the Su-30SM get R-77-1 while the F/A-18C is stuck with AIM-120B?

Im all for making ARB more realistic, like player name tags for example remove them over 10km so people dont just rush around like mad.

But to act like sims highly realistic is just silly , Ive played a few matches (poorly) I might add, and seen some wild af stuff, F8Es flying around with their cockpit open at near mach 1 is a prime example xD

Also if someone uses any for of ESP or map spotting software you are inherently buggered.

Plus if you dont use a hotas your also at a disadvantage to most of the regular players.

the sim community is usually really chill just some folks have a massive rager at the rest of hte game

What?

Sounds like you suffer more because you can’t admit that you are no better than those.

Also, I disagree with OP who wanted to nerf Su-30SM, I just wonder why you believe that every ARB player wants to bias the US?

Okay then, After seeing all those claims which you vomited. seems arguing with you further is meaningless and a waste of time.
I hope you join the Air Force real soon and serve the king and country.

I will not feed you even further which will further derail of topic.

J’ing out when you’re losing the fight. Typical!

Because it’s the exact same missile irl but 120B has a better memory module for easier firmware updates

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People here seem to forget one thing
you give better AMRAAM to US is not gonna be US dominant why?
because almost every TT use bloody AMRAAM and if it need US get better AMRAAM in order for other nation to get better amraam
I’m cool with it

According to the ‘F/A-18C and F-15E’ terms in OP’s claim,
It seems that some guys believe that AIM-120C should be US-exclusive as long as F-15C/E sucks more than EFT.
Which means Reconquista to the good old times when only F-15C/E existed.

Man, from what I can see, you have 16 rank 8 planes, out of which 9 are USA, 4 are French, one Swedish, one German, and one is Russian, that being the SU33.

From that, we can assume you never flew the Flankers with the old, extremely garbage FM, and yet, even with the buffed FM, what’s the lowest K/D out of all your Rank 8s? The SU33, at 0.3 K/D, a vehicle from a nation you say does not suffer from underpowered aircraft. It’s a worse K/D than your Tornado IDS MFG, and your JA37 F21.
Meanwhile your F14s are hovering from 0.8 to 1.4 K/D, the highest being the IRIAF. F15s and F16s hovering around 1.0, and Rafale and CS4 at 1.0~1.4 K/D as well.

It would kinda help your argument that RU does not suffer at top tier and the USA does, if that 1.4 K/D was at the SU33 and the 0.3 at the IRIAF. Right now, all your USA/French rank 8s have better stats than that SU33.

I’m surprised they flat out skipped the 35 and 37

This isn’t about past imbalances—it’s about the current one. Just because one side had an issue before doesn’t mean it’s justified to create a new imbalance in the opposite direction. The problem now is that the Su-30SM gets R-77-1s, which completely outclass AIM-120Bs, forcing F/A-18C and F-15E players into a defensive position before they can even fire. That’s an objective disadvantage in BVR fights that needs to be addressed. If Gaijin wants actual balance, they should either give F/A-18Cs AIM-120Cs or adjust the Su-30SM’s missiles accordingly. Asking for fair gameplay isn’t hypocrisy—it’s just common sense.

Exactly. The issue isn’t about making the U.S. dominant—it’s about keeping all nations competitive. Right now, the Su-30SM has a massive advantage because it gets R-77-1s while the F-15E and F/A-18C are stuck with AIM-120Bs, which are inferior in range and guidance.

If Gaijin wants balance, they should introduce AIM-120Cs for the U.S., and if necessary, upgrade AMRAAM equivalents for other nations too. That way, no one is forced into a defensive position before they even have a chance to fight back.

You need to realize this isn’t true.

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it doesnt

:D

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Yes.

No.

I am sure that the Pre C-5 variant will not give a significant advantage, and 120C-5 will create a bigger problem.

Especially if it becomes US-exclusive.

Thank you for concerning about the game balance.

But Ehhh… you need to adjust your camera lens about this problem.

I’m just saying lol
If US getting C-5 in order for my EFF or my Gripen (which probably need the most since it can carry 4 of them only not 6 like other)to get it too I don’t have problem but if for US exclusive well to hell with it they can stuck with us

The issue isn’t about giving the U.S. an ‘exclusive advantage’—it’s about fixing the imbalance that currently exists. Right now, the Su-30SM gets R-77-1s, which are vastly superior to AIM-120Bs, and this forces F-15E and F/A-18C players into an immediate defensive position in BVR fights.

If the AIM-120C-5 is too strong, then why is the R-77-1 allowed? If missile balance is a concern, then the R-77-1 should also be limited or adjusted accordingly.

Asking for balanced missile matchups across all nations isn’t about making one nation stronger—it’s about making sure everyone has a fair chance in engagements.

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Because it isn’t too strong ?

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If we take a look at your past posts, will we find you saying the F15E should’ve been removed back then?

Well, this might be a bit off-topic but I really can’t wait to see Tornado F.3 Super-late which is armed with ASRAAM and AIM-120C. XD

(Ofc, only when game is ready for IIR)


Naah… I don’t think so.
I have only a handful of matches at the top of the top rank but needless to say, F-15E were a lot much scarier than Su-27/30SM.

I rather fight against Su-30SM than F-15C/E when I play my plane.

Hah I would love to see if turn out stomp every body in ARB I would have laugh my a*s off.
Can’t imagine entire team of SU-30 F-15 F-16 and J-10 got stomp by entire team of tornado arming with those it would be funny