12 hours after update and its already Russian Bias… Right the best part of the Su-30 is 14 missiles. Russia is now on par with the ranges Aim-120’s have been hitting and the seekers are the same so I’d say its actually more fair than it has been lately
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- It’s not that much better in BVR, within WVR it is much better yes, and it turns better.
- The FM is quite bad for BVR
Eurofighter still stomps i think, will have to try it out ingame tho
New Russian tech is still inferior to old NATO tech, go figure
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Su-35 gets introduced with R-3S and people would still scream Russian bias
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No, not really. Briefly up during the F-14A, then it shifted to Russia with the addition to the R-27ER. Some nations got better F-16 variants despite being a US airframe. Then back to the US until the Rafale, EFT, and Typhoon took the spot. The US has not sat uncontested for a year. Gaijin refused to give any US plane the Aim-7P when the 27ER was added. All you had was the 7M which was terrible and would veer off three seconds off the rail.
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Sure, the r27er was the best missile until the ARHs were added, but the difference between the US and russia were a lot closer than they have been since ARHs have been added, also the F15E is much better than the eurofighters and rafale at BVR, as its TWS actually works and it gets access to more ARHs than either
EFT, and Typhoon
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All you had was the 7M which was terrible and would veer off three seconds off the rail.
Never had this experience, personally I love the AIM7M
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We sort of knew immediately the F/A-18 was going to arrive DOA. Nobody worth their salt thought otherwise. Its well over a year late and anytime you mentioned giving it an equally maneuverable missile (such as an early gen 9X) like the R-73 and Python, to keep ot viable, everyone else threw a fit and screamed the US didn’t need it. So now the EFT and CO can beat the F-15 to the optimal altitude to SPAMRAM everyone else, the F-14s got moved up in BR to where their singluar advantage (Aim-54 and Fakour) is now useless. The A-10s (and to a similiar extent, the Su-25s) became pointless after being denied the airspawn they were listed to be getting.
US top tier is sort of become a joke. Sad stuff unfortunately.
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Not sure about SU30SM, but FA-18C is actually at the lower end of 13.7. Can’t imagine it being 14.0 makes any sense except to drag down US winrate.
Oh wow, massive change in tone from you, massive copium
Why are you trying to dogfight planes that are good at dogfighting in a plane that excels in BVR, the F15E has better high altitude performance than any other plane in the game, and the f18 has more of the best missile than any other plane in the game, youre only gonna be carrying two IR missiles so making them aim9x would barely change anything
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AOA unlock doesn’t mean anything when the otherside is dumping ARH and IRCCM missiles at 1.5 mach above your head.
F14 IRAF got moved upto 13.0 because it sealclubbed everything else, too bad
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No. The F-15E is already very good, it doesn’t need to be OP.
Aim-120Bs are better at BVR than the R-77-1s.
The Su-30 is a fatter, less powerful Su-27SM, so it will never have the performance to do BVR as good as the F-15E or EFT. R-77-1s also bleed much, much more speed during manoeuvres.
It has a slightly higher theoretical range against an AFK target, but it will never have a higher practical range.
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You have to be able to get to that high altitude in order for the missiles to be viable. And everyone is aware the EFT and company can beat the F-15E to said altitude. Sure, the F/A-18 has a great missile but again, you have to be able to get to the altitude where that missile is meant for and you simply cant.
Just because you no longer have the best missiles in the entire game, doesn’t mean you need something OP to compensate. Also the Python isn’t even close to the R-73 capability wise.
I’m fairly sure they’re about equal in that aspect.
Deserved. They don’t need any more buffs.
It’s still extremely competitive.
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Incorrect.
Cool to see you okay with Gaijin going back on their word. That’s neat.
Cope Thread #10394945409 of the patch.
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USSR did not have a 14.0 prior to this update, USA did with F15E. F15E is still leagues better than SU30 for BVR. R77-1 range may look good on paper against a target that isn’t manoeuvring, (in-line with aim120), but it bleeds more speed = less range than aim120 against someone manoeuvring. F15E is also vastly superior when it comes to high altitude climb, retention and acceleration performance. It’s unmatched except for possibly Eurofighter.
That said, SU30 brings some really nice upgrades, PESA radar, extra missile pylons, TVC (although mostly gimmick), 77-1’s.
I’d say it’s a solid 14.0. But it has its cons. Mainly that it’s a lot heavier and gets weaker engines than its predecessor, which means poor speed retention for dogfights and BVR.
Does USA need aim120c’s? Absolutely not. Is Eurofighter and F15E still superior to SU30? Probably. Depends who you’re fighting. That said I hope this year some other nations will also get to enjoy TVC missiles like the R73.
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If you thought the previous patches were remotely fair for USSR; no wonder you’re having issues.
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Not gonna lie, This is a top-notch level of US main’s cringe.
Okay pal, Grant our Tornado F.3 and Eurofighter with ASRAAM then. deal?
/s
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120B has better range.
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You need to read their words with a special filter on.
Restore fairness = restore US dominance.
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