Why does the su-27 now have better sustained turn than an F-16?

I’ve complained about the first F-16 FM change which was years ago, they started nerfing its STR and buffing 1C performance because people cried that thr f16 couldn’t pull enough Gs

Yes I understand, but isn’t general consensus that the f16 has an edge at high speed sustained turn rate? Which become obsolete with high off bore IR missiles anyway.

even when the f16 couldn’t pull enough Gs, the f16a at the time could beat the 29 at low speeds, people just needed to slow down and use the 2 braincels needed to beat the 29, but well,what ended up happening was that the 29 got a big nerf that took 1 year to “fix” and the f16a remained the best possible dogfighter in 1c, 2c, it was only when the gripen was added that the f16A fm had something to compete with and then the EF and rafale which are just better

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You can create graphs with WTRTI.

Or directly save .CSV files and generate your own graphs.

Su-27 is better than F-16 even in sustained turn.
Also TVC missiles in WT work poorly, turning into a spinner

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Stop creating stupid threads with false unverified information!!!

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I assume I need 3 variables in the graph, the Specific Excess Power, Sustained Turn Rate and IAS speed. Right? I think the graph only allows 2, and without SEP there’s no way you guys know if I’m doing the turns properly instead of going over or below the sustained turn rate.

Merging 2 different graphs would be a pain