Because stats will easily point out outliers in performance ?
Stats being a bad argument was an okay thing to say in TS era, not so much in SS.
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Failed to do so in case of turm 3. Same goes for sim 10_2 and above vehicles where nato systematically sux while having better tanks
Simple explanation for everyone who doesn’t understand—maybe even some devs.
The BMPT is overpowered. It has a broken armor model. For example, the sides show around 250 mm of armor, yet even 400 mm+ penetration often does nothing. The same issue happens with other parts of the vehicle.
In real life, if a rocket or shell hits the vehicle and causes an internal explosion, it would destroy the entire tank. In this game, however, it behaves magically and survives.
The statistics also show it’s overpowered: it has around a 2.5 K/D ratio. Considering there are many low-skill players in that nation, this alone proves how overpowered it is.
To be added: (Edited) : There is plenty of bug reports, yet Managers of that section doesn’t think its a bug. If we continue this behavior. I mean You Devs if you continue. Sonner or latter there will be some actions taken.
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How so ?
It shows that Turm III is easily the best medium tank at it’s BR.
I’m not talking about Simulator as that mode has vastly different mechanics than GRB.
You might want to re-read the title :P
This is satire right? what a joke 😂😂
Only saving grace of Russian teammates is they respawn like an endless horde of bots, which wins them games.
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Yea but its a top tier.
Even in this shi;ty website it shows that title is false. But Cleary it show where is some problems.
Try playing Sweden at 8.0 or higher. You get 3x AGTM. Pvrbv 551Just swapped place with UDES just before you could research it having to start over, Finnish line does not exist yet, The Pbv501 does not exist and your facing a USSR/Russian “T-55AMD-1” That is impossible to kill. I had a game where I spent all rockets in the “U-SH 405” against “one” T55AMD-1 only to have all but two rockets get blocked cause there where another two TT55AMD-1 just behind the first one (field of view was covered by a building).
And when you jump up one vehicle to 9.3 with +1 rating, USSR get those ERA/NERA plates which makes your ATGM do nothing.
Also, when the ATGM do something, they always shoot straight through the russian tanks, no spalling/splitter just a clean laser beam right through doing mostly no or little damage.
I hate the T-55AMD-1 SOOO much. Russian bias with 100% damage resistance to half the swedish tree.
The higher rating for the ATGMs and the Ikv91 did not help.
Then they get the era/nera…
Your ATGMs die from russian heavy machineguns. You yourself have no secondary ammo.
Your vehicles are super slow and weak power in comparison.
Russian tanks get stabiliser and I don’t know if they have laser range-finder. But probably that too.
And you cant fire while moving and must stop but the latest russian light with ATGM… the BMPTs something can move and shoot its rockets.
Sweden has many HEAT based ammunition that cant deal damage to russian tanks.
And you get to play Stalingrad or some other CQC city map every time its you vs russia.
Its not that far from mediums on 8.3 hence why devs think its “equal” to other 8.3 meds. Just look at difference between is7 or t58 and t10m. Its colossal. Besides that we have 8.7 mediums which are obv worse than turm 3 but have better stats on statshark. Look at obj 140 and magach hydra. Do you really think they are better than turm 3?
For me, those stats only prove that german players at that brs are hopeless. They even managed to make kpz70 look equal or worse than t72a/m
Yes it is.
Just because vehicles like T58 are broken on a whole another level doesn’t mean you can ignore vehicles that obviously overperform at their BRs, but less than those extremely egregious examples such as T58.
Magach Hydra is vehicle from a minor nation, so it having better stats than something from a major nation isn’t that surprising.
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Only thing holding the Turm III down global stats wise is the higher skill level required to make effective use of it, since you can easily machine gun them to death via their turret (using 12.7 or 14.5mm, let alone autocannons). In the right hands they can be a menace, but often they’re just food (especially after they come on sale) for some good ol dakkadakka. You just know when TEC and the others recommend people to buy the Turm III during the sales that it is going to end up a bad time for many of them.
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Thats the issue, devs just wont care until players learn to play turm and finish any leftovers of 8.3 balance properly.
what BR is this? as 4.0 gets blackholed up to the 4.7 british lineup which will kill everything easily
and as soon as BMPT spawns dry up the russia teams implode
13.0 according to op
Too bad nato teams often implode faster than bmpts
Only peoples framerates when Churchill Crocodile starts spamming some flame goodness
well yea it takes 6 nato tanks to kill the biasmobile
I’d just like to throw my two cents in here. Pretty much every American heavy has the same weak spots - driver’s hatch, lower front plate, MG port (with a few exceptions, T58, T32E1 just to name a few).
You know what that sounds an awful lot like? Russian high tier — LFP/driver hatch? These arguments go both ways.
If 6.7-7.3 US heavies are biased, then all T-72/T-80/T-90 are biased as well. Both have immense firepower and are very strong compared to tanks of their BR.
“just shoot the weak spot bro”
I will agree with you that the T-58 needs a nerf (specifically shells, realistically can’t go much higher in BR). The T32E1, however, sits at 7.7, where it is incredibly weak. All 6.7s suffer the same fate of being absurdly weak in an up tier and being absurdly strong in a down tier. The enemy here is not the tank, it’s the lack of decompression. The T34 Heavy has a very long reload which greatly reduces combat effectiveness. The notoriously strong T-29 sits at a higher BR (7.0). The only real difference I can think of is that Russian T-tanks are able to tank many shots in an up tier.
I have played the T-80EU in a test drive and was able to tank ~5 shots to the breech without any damage whatsoever in my first match, and only died when I was shot in the roof. Following matches followed suit.
Slightly off topic but worth noting :)
your take is extremely bad… like wow.
Top tier darts that guarantee pen on weakspots vs
APHE that will likely bounce… wow…
Also, no, the T58 doesn’t need a nerf. It needs to be put at 9.0 like the Obj.279. The T58 actually vastly out preforms the obj.279 but it’s at a balanced br then.
If you really want to go as far as to say the T32E1 is weak, you really need to replay the game. It’s weak vs HEAT but so is everyone else. Against all else it’s quite strong, and has by far the 2nd best USA heavy tank turret. Next to the M4A3E2.
T14 should be the same br as the KV1C from Germany.
T34/T29/T30 should all be 7.3 minimum to match the IS-3
T26E5 should be 7.0
And the T26E1 is actually well balanced.
Granted some German vehicles need br increases as well.
Reply here where it’s appropriate:
Lastly, the only correct thing you said was decompression needs to happen
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