Taking the piss or not, I respond to the " GLHF " crowd by replying - " Wrong game. " - I do it for my own amusement. Is it toxic? You could say it is, depending on personal interpretation.
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See, it’s easy to tell when someone hasn’t really thought something through yet when their way to be “polite and civilized” is to threaten people who don’t say “hi” back to them with bad “karma”. Might want to go back to those “mindfulness through meditation” classes… think you missed something.
I have given many examples in this thread where verbal politeness is expected and I engage in it, in game and out. I’m saying a WT game has a different norm (as the OP started by pointing out, as if it wasn’t obvious), and no one here has the power to change that. There is nothing “self-centred” or “introverted” about respecting the social norms of the microculture you’re in. It is in fact, the exact opposite.
No threats made, but if you are self identifying - so be it. Nothing missed but will close the back and forth in mentioning ASPD is not easy to manage and good luck to you. Oh, and have a great day!
Bye-ee. And don’t let the door you’re holding open for no real reason hit you on the way out. :)
I love this stuff though.
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It is imho a matter of personality and a product of your education / environment how you interact with others - and based on core principles you were taught by the people which raised you.
So as long as you are smart enough to assess “when and where to act how” to achieve which goals you can be quite successful despite being a jerk.
But being authentic in your interactions with others without denying your actual core values is the main challenge in all aspects of life - and you have always to assess to cost benefit ratio of acting like you are or want to be and what society expects from you.
Therefore it is not a question of norms, it is more a matter of assessing them in the right context and your willingness to sacrifice short term benefits if those norms are contradicting the essence of your personality and your actual goals in life.
So following norms like “When in Rome, do what Romans do” might have benefits, but stable and strong personalities are happy to break norms if those are just the product of wanted or unwanted attempts of others to change norms to achieve certain goals.
There is a major difference between respecting and accepting or just considering social norms in your decision making process.
And there a lots of very good reasons not to follow norms as they are just artificial boundaries - people able to think outside the box or not following the swarm / mainstream / norms are actually changing the world and not people happy to hide in in the swarm or behind norms.
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Amazing how many self-reports there are here.
I don’t chat a lot in game because most people don’t seem interested in having constructive chats, when it’s especially “unconstructive” I even go to the trouble of reporting them, ya’ll are welcome!
I think the timer also doesn’t help, as has been mentioned. The auto-messages could be extended as they can actually be quite useful instead of having to type things out. Things like “they’re on the left/right flank” or “they’re behind us!” etc. to maybe catch the team’s attention to some problematic situations.
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Self-report how, exactly? That some folks are more interested in the socializing then others? If you’re trying to make any claims regarding toxicity in this thread, you’re lacking substantial evidence for that. I suggest you check your vibe before somebody does it for you.
The auto timer was placed because of the Ukraine- Russia war.Chat descended into two large countries shouting abuse at each other compounded by each nations hangers on.Proving that chat is nothing but useless and divisive.
I used to write ‘glhf’ for some time before each Match but 80% nothing was replied, 18% of the time someone told me to k* myself instead and 2% of the time a single person replied with thx/u2 so i just quit doing that and enjoy radio spam instead
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You described yourself as toxic above and then you give me that reply?
That’s like doubling-down on your self-report. 😉
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You’re taking one instance that I provided, and stated that whether it was toxic or not was up to personal interpretation, and trying to say I self-reported?
I’m not sure what’s worse - your reading comprehension or your runs of logic. I’m guessing you failed your way through highschool with your lack of understanding nuance.
Chat is useless and divisive.
Eh no, perhaps the subject matter was. Chat in and of itself is never divisive nor useless.
@Husar Why do you anti-chatters always confuse trash talk with “toxicity?” Serious question. Try not to use snark in your answer.
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The amount of times I have passed by a friendly sitting idle only to be taken out by an enemy and thinking"That A*****e could have warned me the enemy was there " instead of letting me blunder in.
I would erase every stupid message currently available and go again with something useful.I don’t need to be told there is Air up I can hear it and WTF is Gramercy?
Seriously when I am flying in with CAS it is useful when a good teammate hears me coming in and tells me where the trouble is.Something like “Airstrike here” would be useful or “Enemy tank on C”, “Watch left flank”, “Take right flank” etc etc.There is always spam but it only takes a little while to work out who the clowns are.
Approximately 50% of my losing games (and about 10% of the winning ones) have someone saying in team chat, “you’re all a bunch of useless losers,” (generally much more profane, I’m being kind. Sometimes they single out individual players and use racial epithets). Is that “trash talk” or “toxicity?”
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I’m not sure why mentioning self-reports triggered you so much, but you you may have forgotten that you also talked about “talking trash” above and that you berate people in general. You even said people playing a specific nation always deserve to be berated.
That’s not talk about a single instance…
Might want to be careful with your accusations, the way you respond is just further self-reporting about how you berate people, you’re doing it to me right now…
What if theyre right tho
I"m not sure why my snarky little dance made you so mad lol
You aren’t here to have a discussion. You’re here to start trouble. You feel personally assaulted by that guy’s behavior because of how you’ve been conditioned by media.
@Bruce_R1 Oh you’re asking me now what the definition of toxicity and trash talk are? It’s trash talk. When did you begin playing video games online or playing sports IRL? Did they call it “Toxic chat” 30 years ago? 20 years ago? 10 years ago? Or is this a recent phenomenon riding the coattails or even assaulting in tandem, with identity politics invading spaces it didn’t used to exist? It’s political correctness from an external entity polluting and reshaping an environment it doesn’t participate in, and the anti-chatters on this forum are examples of people infected by it.
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“Self report” is just this week’s version of “micro-aggression”… a catch word used by the would-be politically correct thought police who want to believe everyone who doesn’t think like them must be somehow a defective person, “on the spectrum”. It says much more about the person who uses it than the person they use it on: specifically that they will always fall for the latest groupthink meme, reliably, if it means they can get away with saying something bad about someone safely in public.
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