Why does Gaijin keep adding post-WWII vehicles at lower BRs?

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Question:

If late war heavy tanks are so useless, why is it that in the centurion mk1 with much thinner armour (altho pretty extremely sloped on ufp)… i can do dumb corner pushes that bounce shells more often than not?

It is dragges into a 5.3 to 7.3 matchmaking range by my ratel and charioteerd.

My most common death with the mk1 snt to heat even when fighting israel or russia. It is to the enemy heavy who actually knows about overmatching and shoots the extremely sloped forehead knowing their large caliber wont bounce off. I think i die to american prototype heavies with it the most. Germans seem to insist on shooting its ufp and bouncing while heat slingers just wound a single crew and die to return fire.

But other than that you can use this sluggish early centurion as a pseudo heavy tank and do decently well. Unlike the mk3 variant, it has no spaced armour to hard counter heat slingers.

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The Centurion Mk 1 performs well in corner pushes despite its thinner armor because of its effective upper frontal plate (UFP) slope, which helps it bounce shells, especially in the 5.3-7.3 range. While it may lack spaced armor like the Mk 3, the Mk 1’s ability to hold its own against heavy tanks highlights that positioning and angling play a key role. The way you exploit overmatching and enemy mistakes compensates for the lack of heavy armor.

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So, why can’t tigers and ISes do the same?

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Due to the number of post-war vehicles the Allies possess

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So why can a centurion MK1 do it?

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You know Axis and Allies?, British is Allies I think?

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Outside of certain sim lobbies, axis vs allies is irrelevant.

The centurion faces israeli, swedish and soviet tanks with heat/heat-fs plenty of times.

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I’m not sure, might be due to stab and more mobile perhaps.

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The 6.0 centurion has no stabilizer and it’s slow for a medium tank in forward movement (in fact, the 4.0 KV1 has better mobility but worse gun handling/pen). It reverse speed is on par if not weaker to ISes and KVs.

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Germany still has the JpZ 4-5, M109G and LeKpzM41. But the players still choose to use the heavies, why? because they are easier to play

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It’s a bit tough to adapt to a new playstyle, especially with Germany, since you have very few light tanks and mobile vehicles at the lower BRs.

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You play British, so maybe you can explain it to me. I might learn something new.

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Idk. I’m barely average at this game yet I don’t have the same struggles concerning armour as german heavies with a british hybrid medium-heavy proto MBT/“universal tank” thingy used to corner push. Maybe it’s because I’m used to cruiser tanks before the centurion dying if you sneeze on them.

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So, it’s really just a matter of playstyle then?

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Perhaps? As I said, I die more often to american heavies with conventional shells and tigers that know to overmatch the forehead than heat-FS even versus israel and sweden on enemy team. With americans, it doesn’t help I keep shooting their loader and not their gunner.

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This thread is just people who want to be invincible in heavy tanks coping

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Maybe, but if you don’t have any thoughts, tips, or perspectives about the post, it’s better to keep your opinion to yourself.

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That’s interesting! It might actually help me improve my gameplay. Thanks for your insight.

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In conclusion, based on the replies:

  1. Playing heavy tanks is basically coping.
  2. Even the heaviest tank (MAUS) should be played like mediums or light tanks.
  3. Gaijin is to blame for their broken overpressure mechanic.
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Playing heavy tanks like they’re invincible is coping.

Be aware of your surroundings, don’t push like a chicken with your head cut off, and don’t rely entirely on your armor.

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