I seriously dont understand why this happens. The russian tanks are able to be killed, and me personally i can do pretty good with usa against these russian or any other countries. Is it because of the lack of good players? Is it the bmpt? Is it just russian bias? I dont know why. Most times, ill end up in like first place with nearly my whole team gone, while like only 3-4 russian players are out the match. This is the worst it has ever been for as long as ive played war thunder. I dont know if its even a player issue at this point, it could be all the options i said above. Its also noticeable on how as soon as it reaches the 10.7 range, matches get much much worse with usa, facing all these russian biased tanks (BMPT) which is at 11.7. Theres many ways to fix this, which is by making the bmpt 12.0-12.3, adding spall liner (credits to the guy who made that forum about it, got the idea from him) or just overall listening to the problems of the players.
Examples of some matches where russian teams get obliterated:
Match 1:
Victory in the [Domination] Middle East mission!
Destruction of ground targets 12 31333 SL 1654 RP
2:04 M1128 Wolfpack M900 Type 24 ICV (P) 189 mission points 3450 + ¶1725 = 5175 SL 99 + ¶198 + (Booster)26 + (Talismans)99 = 422 RP
3:47 A-7D AGM-65A T-72B 200 mission points 1585 + ¶793 = 2378 SL 57 + ¶57 + (Booster)15 = 129 RP
3:49 A-7D AGM-65A BMP-3 175 mission points 1585 + ¶793 = 2378 SL 49 + ¶49 + (Booster)13 = 111 RP
3:50 A-7D AGM-65A BMP-3 175 mission points 1585 + ¶793 = 2378 SL 49 + ¶49 + (Booster)13 = 111 RP
3:50 A-7D AGM-65A Chieftain 900 175 mission points 1585 + ¶793 = 2378 SL 49 + ¶49 + (Booster)13 = 111 RP
4:42 A-7D AGM-65A ZSU-23-4M4 175 mission points 1585 + ¶793 = 2378 SL 49 + ¶49 + (Booster)13 = 111 RP
4:49 A-7D FFAR Type 93 175 mission points 1585 + ¶793 = 2378 SL 49 + ¶49 + (Booster)13 = 111 RP
8:37 A-7D AGM-65A ZSU-23-4M4 175 mission points 1585 + ¶793 = 2378 SL 49 + ¶49 + (Booster)13 = 111 RP
8:38 A-7D AGM-65A BMP-2M 200 mission points 1585 + ¶793 = 2378 SL 57 + ¶57 + (Booster)15 = 129 RP
8:38 A-7D AGM-65A M113A1 (TOW) 99 mission points 1585 + ¶793 = 2378 SL 41 + ¶41 + (Booster)11 = 93 RP
9:10 A-7D AGM-65A Object 435 155 mission points 1585 + ¶793 = 2378 SL 46 + ¶46 + (Booster)12 = 104 RP
9:12 A-7D FFAR ZSU-23-4M4 175 mission points 1585 + ¶793 = 2378 SL 49 + ¶49 + (Booster)13 = 111 RP
Critical damage to the enemy 12 3147 SL 177 RP
2:04 M1128 Wolfpack M900 Type 24 ICV (P) 57 mission points 345 + ¶173 = 518 SL 10 + ¶20 + (Booster)3 + (Talismans)10 = 43 RP
3:47 A-7D AGM-65A T-72B 66 mission points 159 + ¶80 = 239 SL 6 + ¶6 + (Booster)2 = 14 RP
3:49 A-7D AGM-65A BMP-3 58 mission points 159 + ¶80 = 239 SL 5 + ¶5 + (Booster)2 = 12 RP
3:50 A-7D AGM-65A BMP-3 58 mission points 159 + ¶80 = 239 SL 5 + ¶5 + (Booster)2 = 12 RP
3:50 A-7D AGM-65A Chieftain 900 58 mission points 159 + ¶80 = 239 SL 5 + ¶5 + (Booster)2 = 12 RP
4:42 A-7D AGM-65A ZSU-23-4M4 58 mission points 159 + ¶80 = 239 SL 5 + ¶5 + (Booster)2 = 12 RP
4:49 A-7D FFAR Type 93 58 mission points 159 + ¶80 = 239 SL 5 + ¶5 + (Booster)2 = 12 RP
8:37 A-7D AGM-65A ZSU-23-4M4 58 mission points 159 + ¶80 = 239 SL 5 + ¶5 + (Booster)2 = 12 RP
8:38 A-7D AGM-65A BMP-2M 66 mission points 159 + ¶80 = 239 SL 6 + ¶6 + (Booster)2 = 14 RP
8:38 A-7D AGM-65A M113A1 (TOW) 33 mission points 159 + ¶80 = 239 SL 4 + ¶4 + (Booster)2 = 10 RP
9:10 A-7D AGM-65A Object 435 51 mission points 159 + ¶80 = 239 SL 5 + ¶5 + (Booster)2 = 12 RP
9:12 A-7D FFAR ZSU-23-4M4 58 mission points 159 + ¶80 = 239 SL 5 + ¶5 + (Booster)2 = 12 RP
Damage to the enemy 18 2283 SL 115 RP
2:04 M1128 Wolfpack M900 Type 24 ICV (P) 20 mission points 173 + ¶87 = 260 SL 5 + ¶10 + (Booster)2 + (Talismans)5 = 22 RP
3:47 A-7D AGM-65A T-72B 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 3 + ¶3 + (Booster)1 = 7 RP
3:49 A-7D AGM-65A BMP-3 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
3:50 A-7D AGM-65A BMP-3 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
3:50 A-7D AGM-65A Chieftain 900 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
4:41 A-7D FFAR Stormer AD 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 3 + ¶3 + (Booster)1 = 7 RP
4:42 A-7D AGM-65A ZSU-23-4M4 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
4:43 A-7D AGM-65A BMP-3 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
4:46 A-7D AGM-65A Stormer AD 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 3 + ¶3 + (Booster)1 = 7 RP
4:49 A-7D FFAR Type 93 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
4:49 A-7D FFAR Type 93 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
8:37 A-7D AGM-65A ZSU-23-4M4 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
8:38 A-7D AGM-65A BMP-2M 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 3 + ¶3 + (Booster)1 = 7 RP
8:38 A-7D AGM-65A M113A1 (TOW) 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
8:38 A-7D AGM-65A M113A1 (TOW) 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
9:10 A-7D AGM-65A Object 435 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
9:12 A-7D FFAR ZSU-23-4M4 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
9:12 A-7D FFAR ZSU-23-4M4 11 mission points 79 + ¶40 = 119 SL 2 + ¶2 + (Booster)1 = 5 RP
Takeoffs 1 66 RP
7:19 A-7D 29 + ¶29 + (Booster)8 = 66 RP
Landings 1 129 RP
6:16 A-7D 57 + ¶57 + (Booster)15 = 129 RP
Scouting of the enemy 3 780 SL
1:13 M1128 Wolfpack BMP-2 5 mission points without UAV 173 + ¶87 = 260 SL
1:49 M1128 Wolfpack Type 24 ICV (P) 5 mission points without UAV 173 + ¶87 = 260 SL
2:09 M1128 Wolfpack Centauro I 105 R 5 mission points without UAV 173 + ¶87 = 260 SL
Damage taken by scouted enemies 2 1036 SL
1:20 M1128 Wolfpack BMP-2 20 mission points without UAV 345 + ¶173 = 518 SL
2:20 M1128 Wolfpack Centauro I 105 R 20 mission points without UAV 345 + ¶173 = 518 SL
Destruction by allies of scouted enemies 2 5176 SL 234 RP
1:20 M1128 Wolfpack BMP-2 60 mission points without UAV × 1725 + ¶863 = 2588 SL 27 + ¶55 + (Booster)8 + (Talismans)27 = 117 RP
2:20 M1128 Wolfpack Centauro I 105 R 60 mission points without UAV × 1725 + ¶863 = 2588 SL 27 + ¶55 + (Booster)8 + (Talismans)27 = 117 RP
Awards 34 17475 SL 226 RP
1:21 Intelligence 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
2:20 Intelligence 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
3:47 Ground Force Rescuer 150 + ¶75 = 225 SL 0 RP
3:47 Base defender! 300 + ¶150 = 450 SL 0 RP
3:50 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
3:50 Multi strike! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
3:50 Multi strike! 500 + ¶250 = 750 SL 0 RP
3:51 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
3:51 Multi strike! 500 + ¶250 = 750 SL 0 RP
4:43 Avenger 150 + ¶75 = 225 SL 0 RP
4:43 Professional 150 + ¶75 = 225 SL 0 RP
4:43 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
4:49 According to Intelligence 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
4:49 Professional 50 + ¶25 = 75 SL 0 RP
4:49 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
4:49 Multi strike! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
8:38 Professional 50 + ¶25 = 75 SL 0 RP
8:38 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
8:39 Ground Force Rescuer 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
8:39 Avenger 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
8:39 Professional 50 + ¶25 = 75 SL 0 RP
8:39 Professional 50 + ¶25 = 75 SL 0 RP
8:39 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
8:39 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
8:39 Multi strike! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
8:39 Multi strike! 500 + ¶250 = 750 SL 0 RP
9:10 Professional 50 + ¶25 = 75 SL 0 RP
9:10 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
9:10 Multi strike! 500 + ¶250 = 750 SL 0 RP
9:12 Eye for Eye 300 + ¶150 = 450 SL 0 RP
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Match 2:
Defeat in the [Domination] Seversk-13 mission!
Destruction of ground targets 12 33990 SL 1953 RP
3:03 M1A1 AIM KE-W T-80U-E1 200 mission points 1910 + ¶955 = 2865 SL 115 + ¶115 = 230 RP
3:09 M1A1 AIM KE-W Leopard 2A6 200 mission points 1910 + ¶955 = 2865 SL 127 + ¶127 = 254 RP
3:25 M1A1 AIM KE-W T-80U-E1 200 mission points 1910 + ¶955 = 2865 SL 115 + ¶115 = 230 RP
4:09 M1A1 AIM KE-W Pantsir-S1 200 mission points 1910 + ¶955 = 2865 SL 115 + ¶115 = 230 RP
8:06 F/A-18E AGM-65F Pantsir-S1 63 mission points 1620 + ¶810 = 2430 SL 45 + ¶45 = 90 RP
9:14 F/A-18E AGM-65F PUMA VJTF 20 mission points 1620 + ¶810 = 2430 SL 39 + ¶39 = 78 RP
9:19 F/A-18E AGM-65F BMPT 21 mission points 1620 + ¶810 = 2430 SL 43 + ¶43 = 86 RP
9:21 F/A-18E AGM-65F Leopard 2PL 99 mission points 1620 + ¶810 = 2430 SL 47 + ¶47 = 94 RP
9:24 F/A-18E GBU-32 JDAM BMPT-72 21 mission points 1620 + ¶810 = 2430 SL 43 + ¶43 = 86 RP
10:18 F/A-18E GBU-32 JDAM FlaRakRad 21 mission points 1620 + ¶810 = 2430 SL 43 + ¶43 = 86 RP
12:05 AH-64A (GR) AGM-114K Pantsir-S1 200 mission points 2650 + ¶1325 = 3975 SL 58 + ¶117 + (Talismans)58 = 233 RP
13:13 AH-64A (GR) AGM-114K 9K317M “BUK-M3” (TELAR) (AI) 200 mission points 2650 + ¶1325 = 3975 SL 64 + ¶128 + (Talismans)64 = 256 RP
Assistance in destroying the enemy 2 3081 SL 212 RP
9:31 M1A1 AIM KE-W ◍Т-80U-Е1 120 mission points 860 + ¶430 = 1290 SL 52 + ¶52 = 104 RP
11:53 AH-64A (GR) AGM-114K Pantsir-S1 132 mission points 1193 + ¶598 = 1791 SL 27 + ¶54 + (Talismans)27 = 108 RP
Critical damage to the enemy 14 4087 SL 249 RP
3:03 M1A1 AIM KE-W T-80U-E1 60 mission points 191 + ¶96 = 287 SL 12 + ¶12 = 24 RP
3:09 M1A1 AIM KE-W Leopard 2A6 60 mission points 191 + ¶96 = 287 SL 13 + ¶13 = 26 RP
3:25 M1A1 AIM KE-W T-80U-E1 60 mission points 191 + ¶96 = 287 SL 12 + ¶12 = 24 RP
4:09 M1A1 AIM KE-W Pantsir-S1 60 mission points 191 + ¶96 = 287 SL 12 + ¶12 = 24 RP
4:38 M1A1 AIM KE-W ◍Т-80U-Е1 60 mission points 191 + ¶96 = 287 SL 12 + ¶12 = 24 RP
8:06 F/A-18E AGM-65F Pantsir-S1 21 mission points 162 + ¶81 = 243 SL 5 + ¶5 = 10 RP
9:14 F/A-18E AGM-65F PUMA VJTF 7 mission points 162 + ¶81 = 243 SL 4 + ¶4 = 8 RP
9:19 F/A-18E AGM-65F BMPT 7 mission points 162 + ¶81 = 243 SL 4 + ¶4 = 8 RP
9:21 F/A-18E AGM-65F Leopard 2PL 33 mission points 162 + ¶81 = 243 SL 5 + ¶5 = 10 RP
9:24 F/A-18E GBU-32 JDAM BMPT-72 7 mission points 162 + ¶81 = 243 SL 4 + ¶4 = 8 RP
10:18 F/A-18E GBU-32 JDAM FlaRakRad 7 mission points 162 + ¶81 = 243 SL 4 + ¶4 = 8 RP
11:29 AH-64A (GR) AGM-114K Pantsir-S1 66 mission points 265 + ¶133 = 398 SL 6 + ¶13 + (Talismans)6 = 25 RP
12:05 AH-64A (GR) AGM-114K Pantsir-S1 66 mission points 265 + ¶133 = 398 SL 6 + ¶13 + (Talismans)6 = 25 RP
13:13 AH-64A (GR) AGM-114K 9K317M “BUK-M3” (TELAR) (AI) 66 mission points 265 + ¶133 = 398 SL 6 + ¶13 + (Talismans)6 = 25 RP
Damage to the enemy 17 2496 SL 143 RP
3:03 M1A1 AIM KE-W T-80U-E1 20 mission points 96 + ¶48 = 144 SL 6 + ¶6 = 12 RP
3:09 M1A1 AIM KE-W Leopard 2A6 20 mission points 96 + ¶48 = 144 SL 6 + ¶6 = 12 RP
3:25 M1A1 AIM KE-W T-80U-E1 20 mission points 96 + ¶48 = 144 SL 6 + ¶6 = 12 RP
4:09 M1A1 AIM KE-W Pantsir-S1 20 mission points 96 + ¶48 = 144 SL 6 + ¶6 = 12 RP
4:38 M1A1 AIM KE-W ◍Т-80U-Е1 20 mission points 96 + ¶48 = 144 SL 6 + ¶6 = 12 RP
8:06 F/A-18E AGM-65F Pantsir-S1 11 mission points 81 + ¶41 = 122 SL 2 + ¶2 = 4 RP
9:14 F/A-18E AGM-65F PUMA VJTF 11 mission points 81 + ¶41 = 122 SL 2 + ¶2 = 4 RP
9:19 F/A-18E AGM-65F BMPT 11 mission points 81 + ¶41 = 122 SL 2 + ¶2 = 4 RP
9:21 F/A-18E AGM-65F Leopard 2PL 11 mission points 81 + ¶41 = 122 SL 2 + ¶2 = 4 RP
9:24 F/A-18E GBU-32 JDAM BMPT-72 11 mission points 81 + ¶41 = 122 SL 2 + ¶2 = 4 RP
9:24 F/A-18E GBU-32 JDAM BMPT-72 11 mission points 81 + ¶41 = 122 SL 2 + ¶2 = 4 RP
10:18 F/A-18E GBU-32 JDAM FlaRakRad 11 mission points 81 + ¶41 = 122 SL 2 + ¶2 = 4 RP
10:43 F/A-18E GBU-32 JDAM BMPT 11 mission points 81 + ¶41 = 122 SL 2 + ¶2 = 4 RP
11:29 AH-64A (GR) AGM-114K Pantsir-S1 11 mission points 133 + ¶67 = 200 SL 3 + ¶7 + (Talismans)3 = 13 RP
11:35 AH-64A (GR) AGM-114K Pantsir-S1 11 mission points 133 + ¶67 = 200 SL 3 + ¶7 + (Talismans)3 = 13 RP
12:05 AH-64A (GR) AGM-114K Pantsir-S1 11 mission points 133 + ¶67 = 200 SL 3 + ¶7 + (Talismans)3 = 13 RP
13:13 AH-64A (GR) AGM-114K 9K317M “BUK-M3” (TELAR) (AI) 11 mission points 133 + ¶67 = 200 SL 3 + ¶6 + (Talismans)3 = 12 RP
Awards 16 11700 SL
3:10 Multi strike! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL
3:26 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL
3:26 Multi strike! 500 + ¶250 = 750 SL
9:19 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL
9:19 Multi strike! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL
9:21 Ground Force Rescuer 150 + ¶75 = 225 SL
9:21 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL
9:21 Multi strike! 500 + ¶250 = 750 SL
9:25 Ground Force Rescuer 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL
9:25 Avenger 150 + ¶75 = 225 SL
9:25 Professional 150 + ¶75 = 225 SL
9:25 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL
9:25 Multi strike! 500 + ¶250 = 750 SL
10:19 Professional 50 + ¶25 = 75 SL
10:19 Shadow strike streak! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL
13:15 Heavy Metal Hero 5000 + ¶2500 = 7500 SL
Activity Time 7364 SL 287 RP
AH-64A (GR) 1292 + ¶1292 = 2584 SL 14 + ¶29 + (Talismans)14 = 57 RP
F/A-18E 1400 + ¶1400 = 2800 SL 12 + ¶12 = 24 RP
M1A1 AIM 990 + ¶990 = 1980 SL 103 + ¶103 = 206 RP
Time Played 11:37 3264 RP
AH-64A (GR) 78% 2:14 234 + ¶468 + (Talismans)234 = 936 RP
F/A-18E 80% 5:46 713 + ¶713 = 1426 RP
M1A1 AIM 90% 3:37 451 + ¶451 = 902 RP
Reward for participating in the mission 10204 SL
Skill Bonus 2623 RP
AH-64A (GR) III 427 RP
F/A-18E III 1027 RP
M1A1 AIM III 1169 RP
Other awards 43740 SL
Earned: 116662 SL, 8731 CRP
Activity: 94%
Damaged Vehicles: F/A-18E, M1A1 AIM, AH-64A (GR)
Automatic repair of all vehicles: -13352 SL
Automatic purchasing of ammo and “Crew Replenishment”: -930 SL
Researched unit:
F-86A-5: 154 RP
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Theres plenty of more matches, i dont want to list all of them out tho. But concluding this, please can someone explain to me how or why USA teams are doing just terrible. I cant tell if its the players, russian bias (im leaning towards that), or well, the BMPT.