Straight on, the Mantlet has a Armor hole in it. It can be 50 called right through.
Great idea let me just go hull down on single cap Cargo Port, or middle east where they removed every single hull down sniper position, Or Normandy which has suffered the same fate, or Abandoned factory, OR ANY MAP FOR THAT MATTER.
You can’t hull down snipe anymore, Gaijin is forcing CQB on all of us.
Or how bout GOING hull down, only to get lol penned by some Leopard 2 you shouldn’t be fighting and loosing every single turret crew member in one hit.
VFM should keep DM33 and stay at 9.3.
MTTD is inferior to the VFM due to being wheeled and not having smoke grenades.
Sounds like a bug more than anything, though I’m pretty sure I’ve read about that bug being present for a long time
The MTTD has a noticably faster, autoloaded reload and gen 1 thermals, both of which are far more useful than smoke grenades. The wheeled thing I’ll grant you, but that’s an advantage I’ll happily trade for the MTTD’s more consistent advantages in firepower.
They could also increase the rate of fire if needed, the MTTD has no published RoF statistics anywhere so it’s all up to Gaijin. A 6.7 second reload is anomalously long for a 105mm autoloader of that era, most similar cassette systems with 120mm rounds were managing 4-5 seconds easily.
NERA just needs more kinetic protection is all, the it can take some hits.
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The Olifant Mk.2 is merely based on the Centureon hull, but has a new engine, FCS, gun, transmission, tracks, and road wheels.
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The Centureon Mk.1 hull was built in the 1940’s, but the hull it was based on was a Mk.10 hull, really it’s 1960-72, as that’s when production was.
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The Upgrade program for the Olifant Mk.2 was started in 2005
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It has advanced, everything…
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It only fights Leopard 2’s and T-80’s in a full uptier
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Play it properly, and it isn’t a bad tank
Like the Strv had a 2.8 second in the 60’s
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The olifants were built off Centurion MK3s Provided to South Africa in the early 50s, which were older late 40s production Mk3 centurions.
47-56, there is more than a 50% chance they are 1950+, look at the serial number on the hull to prove it, otherwise the claim doesn’t mean anything to me.
Good point, but that’s a somewhat unique case given the gun is completely immobile, and thus always perfectly in line with the reloading system (Like the French oscillating turret designs).
The MTTD’s is similar in design to the Leclerc (1991, ~5 seocnds), Type 90 (1990, ~3-4 seconds), etc. I figure ~5 seconds is a pretty safe guess, considering the MTTD is using lighter rounds, but from a country that hadn’t produced an autoloader of this type or caliber before IIRC.
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Well they received their Centurions in 54, So that narrows it down, and im pretty sure they bought already used examples from the British army, instead of buying new Export models.
They had help from Israel/IMI
They did? If you have more information on the MTTD, I’d honestly love to hear it, because it’s been very difficult to learn anything about it from internet sources. I can’t even pin an exact date to the design, though given it gets DM63 that dates it to sometime after 2005.
We don’t balance vehicles based on maps available. If we did, lot’s of vehicles would be going down in BR. You don’t seriously think stuff like ATGM carriers should go down in BR just because they can’t fight CQB? Play vehicles to it’s strengths. Not every tank has to be a moving bunker. And there’re still plenty of maps where hull down sniping is possible. Tunisia, Fields of Poland, Sands of Sinai, Battle of Hurtgen Forest, just to name a few.
2005 was the intial date, they had help from IMI with insight from the Sho’t program, they only originally intended it to be a refurbishment in the Mk.1, but ended up being the Mk.2 to be the fully upgraded and modernized version. Mk.1A is the initial upgrade, then the Mk.1B, which is identical to the Mk.2 aside from upgraded engine. 2018 was the first initial production batch of the vehicle, only 26 instances were built. The Mk.2 has a newer FCS and a hunter-killer mode on its computer system.
And you don’t think Gaijin will turn them into CQB death fests with each subsequent update?
Some Vehicles just don’t have Strengths OTHER than sniping.
Olifant tank mk.1 : 1979
Olifant tank Mk1a : 1985 (8.3)
Olifant tank Mk1b : 1991
Olifant mk.2 (your complaint) : 2007 (9.3)
Leopard 2 : since 1979 (Leopard 2a0), Leopard 2A4 is 1985 (Prototype : 10.0 - standard and premium Variant : 10.3)
T-80 : since 1976. (T-80B 10.3, but yes T-80 UD should be 10.3 too, 292 10.3 is another issue could be 10.7, but whatever)
2005*, only produced in “mass” in 2018…
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