Why do tanks with hand crank turrets suffer a reduction in traverse speed when the battery is dead?

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Yes, good observation!

penetration has nothing do do with electronic traversal systems.

Ahem, what group got the other fox post shut down?

And making it historically accurate is fair no?

(Too honest so it gets reported).

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It does in terms of its br placement

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This might be wishful thinking however, seeing as Gaijing is developing more systems for the damage model like hydraulics and electricals.

Perhaps we’ll see issues like the hand cranked turret be resolved

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Fox had a powered traverse option
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Sourced from the FV721 export brochure

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you know what gun penetration means right? its nothing to do with gun laying speeds

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"Will be avaliable”

Does that mean it wasn’t available at the time of this brochure?

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no, just means its not standard trim level. bit like optional air conditioning when you buy a car it will be available to you for a bit extra cash

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In that case, they why didn’t they say “Power traverse is available”?

late 1960s phrasing is just like that. Both my parents grew up in the 60s so I still speak like that at times.
Odd antiquated speak

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ah ok

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Then they shouldnt be nerfing the turret traverse of the Fox, but that doesnt change the issue of hand cranks being effected by battery power.

Depending on the trim level they decide to go with the traverse on CVR(W) would most likely be about 60deg/s with an electronic drive but just like with Scimitar with its two speed hand driven traverse would likely be in the range of 45deg/s.

30deg/s is still workable but not of the level a gunner of military fitnes would tap out at

Have you submitted this evidence as a report to counter the one that is causing the nerf? They want it as 25deg/s with a gold star maxxed crew.

I havent as none of my TMs or brochures give an exact number. Im going off of my own experience with similar military vehicles and anti tank guns from working at a museum of artillery. I personally could get a 2pdr anti tank gun to traverse about 45deg/s manually in its high gear, the guns weight is comparable to the weight of a CVRT/W turret and I’m not as fit as a soldier

Hand cracked turrets shouldnt suffer from damage to battery.
Electrically rotated turrets shouldnt suffer from injured gunners.

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agreed

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Your terms are acceptable, provided there is still an uninjured crew member who would have immediate access to turret rotation controls.

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