maybe not with T-34/85s but as i stated, ive just picked them to grind the event.
Maybe with T-34/85s but overall my KD is good enough to make these statements.
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All of your T3485s have not reached 3kd, however, my T3485d5t has a KD of 3.6.
There is not a significant performance difference between the two T3485, as the protection of the d5T is better than that of the Zis53, and the KD of my d5T is very similar to that of my two Tiger tanks, indicating that this is normal
Here is a comparison of their protection measures
I don’t think you are a player who really wants to speak up for the USSR. In order to provide a better experience for the Tiger, Germany players often don’t want to see USA or USSR stronger than them, and even won’t tolerate any factors that could threaten the survival of their powerful tanks
I don’t play the T-34-85 very often as the only one I have is in my Swedish 6.7 lineup, but I have been playing a lot more 5.7 as I was grinding the German tech tree
I personally think the HVSS Shermans are better than the Jumbos, first off, and second: 5.7 is currently a really awkward BR to play because the gap between 5.7 and 6.7 tech-wise is so large. 6.7 is quite possibly the most populated BR currently as well, so every match of 5.7 is seeing Tiger IIs. It sucks because where 5.7 is as a BR, you’re either really good or really mid at your BR, only to become almost completely useless every match.
I have found in my time though, it is much easier to kill US vehicles with the T-34 than it is to kill German tanks. On the Tiger II H, your only real spot to hit is the turret roof, and that will only penetrate if your gun is good enough, something the 85mm will just bounce off of, forcing you to hit a shot from the side, only to have the Germanium sideskirts eat your round, the side bounce your round into the stratosphere, or the track armor on the back of the turret to disintegrate your round.
Pretty much: 5.7 shouldn’t be seeing 6.7 as often as it is.
5.7 is recovering a little bit though as too many people are playing 6.7 so many have moved to 7.3, locking 6.7 in an uptier loop currently
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I support you. Nobody want to see his T-34-85 fighting Tiger 2 s. I don’t want my IS-2 (1944) fighting PzH 2000s either. (I killed an up-tiered Jumbo with my -2 (1944), it was cruel)
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so? should i take that you think if i dont have 3 K.D on 34/85 i cant speak about my experience playing it?
I have no clue where are you going with this point.
All i said is that 34/85 perform fine friend. Even your very own stats suggest so. If they did not perform at least fine, you wouldnt reach your current K/D.
Bullseye.
German are too though.
Could you answer me the question as well.
Why does Jumbo Sherman has to face is-2 with 122mm cannon?
Why does Tiger 1 has to face a jumbo pershing? T34, etc.
Answer is pretty simple. They’re all just too strong if they don’t. Same with 34-85. Pretty mobile, good cannon. Trolly enough armor for a medium tank.
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I keep saying this, but somehow people are also convinced the T-34-85 is even better than the M4A3 (76), lol. Now people also say a stabilized T-34-85 will be 6.0 or even 6.3-worthy.
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To be honest the T-34-85 is actually pretty good at 5.7, I have a 4:1 K:D in the T-34-85E. I think mostly people just play it wrong, you’re supposed to flank with it. But to be honest I think it might just be performing well for me because German mains are so bad.
The APCBC shell is quite good in terms of post penetration damage and the mobility is pretty good too.
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Since that’s the case, can’t I explain my thoughts on ‘your ideas’?
If T3485ZIS53 is the same as T3485d5T in 5.3, I would say that ZIS53 is an excellent vehicle, but in 5.7 it means encountering stronger enemies, and compared to d5T, the progress of ZIS is completely insignificant.
My T3485zis53 only has around 2kd, which you may think is very high, but everyone’s skills are different. Most of the vehicles I am currently using have 2-3kd, so this does not mean that T3485 is a good vehicle.
this is forum, you are free to express your ideas as you see fit. I just understood your comment in a way that if person doesnt have 3.0 K/D they cant speak about their experience.
issue not limited to 34/85s.
i take that you want to say that improvements introduced by ZIS are insignificant when compared to D5T and as such do not warrant higher BR, to which i say agree. Thats just gaijin being gajin.
it is significantly harder to have good stats in bad vehicle than in good or mid one. If 34/85s were bad, it would logically be harder to perform well in them.
even if you want to imply that i am worse overall player (our overall stats are similiar), i still managed to reach 2.0 KD. While as not as impressive as yours, its far from being bad.
Statistics mean nothing when Germany players atleast before Cold War vehicles still play literally like the stereotype they’re. There’s a reason just 4 players in Tiger 2s locking in could still probably defeat a whole enemy team locking in.
6.7 is a premium blackhole i dont really enjoy playing 5.7-6.0 since BR changes that moved a lot of stuff up that was above 6.7. Same deal with 9.3 and 9.7 being sucked up to the 10.3/7 blackhole.
Its fine at 5.7, compression and premium blackholes are the problem.
Uptiers hurt a lot more in ww2 BRs where heavy tanks exists and armor plays a much bigger role without the prescence of lrf, high mag optics, modern gun handling and accuracy, and standardized weakspots the are easily penned by any round round within 1br.
Compression
statistics dont lie, thats whats so beautiful about them.
Problem is, a whole BR below, there’s literally the T-34-57 which can do literally the same while having better reload, better acceleration and being smaller overall in exchange for post-pen damage and angled pen. I even uptiered it back then to 5.3-5.7 and it was just as useful. I literally don’t see the point of the T-34-85 being so high, the M4A3 (76) can literally do the same thing a T-34-85 can do, but almost always better.
Statistics don’t lie about being useless. Again, how the hell do you even want to use statistics when more than half the German players don’t even make use of the tanks’ armor and/or barely even look around to counter flankers? Literally just pre-aiming at a flanking T-34-85 is enough to defeat it, it doesn’t even have any kind of smoke to somehow counter those who notice it.
But the nowhere is absolutely free.
For example, if you post the record of T3485, saying that it is a good vehicle and may not have any other intentions, but I am obviously thinking more about this topic. For example, I think you may be using the record to create a sense of authority, making it easier for people to believe that T3485 is strong, indicating that I am exaggerating. At this time, I happen to have a more authoritative record, and your viewpoint conflicts with mine, so I have to refute it.
Because from the very beginning when you use data to explain something, it already means that others can equally use data to refute you
im not. if i didnt want to talk about 34/85s performance, id say what i want to say and wouldnt respond to you further. this conversation has been civil so far and i have no intention to change that.
anyone can check performance of any player easily, its no secret. i am not posting my performance to make people believe 34/85 is strong, im posting them to let other readers know that i actually played them and what experience i base this opinion on.
if i said 34/85s are okay but had terrible stats in them, that opinion wouldnt be correct, no?
that was not my intetion in the slightest.
never said its wrong.
absolutely.
So this is a misunderstanding, and I won’t bring up these things again.
Although I don’t know why Gaijin deliberately suppressed USA and USSR, I know that every time I play T3485 and encounter enemies that I can’t defeat with all my strength, I always feel angry and have a feeling of ‘this is unfair’. When I use German tanks to kill all directions, this feeling turns into a deep sadness. My novice friend just played USSR 5.7 and is complaining about why the opponent of T3485 is so strong. This is why I came to the forum to explain the significance of my point of view
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