Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions

cough What you want may not be the best solution…

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You have 203 posts in this thread. I can gurantee 90% of them are just insults.

Like for example this. This is just being an ass

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If pointing out how things are is insulting to You, then sorry but this is just reality.

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Try addressing the point in question once in a while instead of entering into a hate filled pissing contest with the opposition. You and many like you all like spoiled kids all debating badly and just throwing tantrums when somebody comes at you with a good opposing point. Try it, maybe even like a comment your "Enemy " made that you actually agree with.

You know what. Blocked. CBA with that guy anymore. He just wants his way or no way. There is no point even trying to discuss CAS balance with that guy.

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I feel that I’m being vindicated in the past month of staying silent because the main throwouts these guys use, are still lame as ever.

I think its just dedication and looks like its obsessing

Yeah they really are. Im sat here actually genuinely thinking CAS needs buffs. Especially at top tier. I keep getting swatted out of the sky in a Gripen by Pantsir at ranges that far exceed any weapon system I actually have.

So long as all nations got equal SPAA to the Pantsir. Weapon systems like Brimstones and Martels might actually be needed ASAP to actually give CAS a chance.

I’m definitely missing an SPAA in my Germany Premium 3.7/4.3 lineup … I even had a suggestion:
It’s called Möbelwagen / Furniture trolley
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The funnel could catch bombs really good ^^
It uses the 3.7 cm Flak 43 L/89 …
It is like a Ostwind but a bit more ugly. Perfect for a premium.

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I’d go for that…

I also want flak towers to be created though. xD We absolutely need more AAA/SPAA/AI AAA options for these modes.

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As SPAA players, we also urgently need proper aiming rectangles. I know you can mod them into the game. But I’m a lazy person … sometimes … every now and then …

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I actually use my sunglasses, and even have a beanie to make a brim xD

I was actually just about to go to bed … With this picture in mind, it could be fun.
Be kind to each other.

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I guess the point is that in a TO mode we can all use that open top tank and any other type of vehicle that CAS made obsolete.

Game tactics can also change radically as well such as defensive lines taken up around a position or CAP. Vehicles can group etc etc

Ever considered that spawn rush is a reaction to CAS? You can’t bomb a spawn camper without killing your own or don’t want to be out in the open map for long.

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I just dont think it is quite as simple as

“add TO”

It would probably need its own map and its own BR systems. and even still. Not everything would be isntantly “usable”. I often have the Striker in my line up, but I can only use it on 1/3 of maps. Thats not anything to do with CAS

In my experience, CAS is a minority of my deaths.

Actually no, In fact Id say the opposite. CAS is the only effective counter for spawn campers. Dealing with both those in the spawn and those in powerful sniping spots preventing you from leaving spawn,

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There is no reason for that.

Air spawncamps too ;)

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I think the game would be interesting in ways neither of us have thought about and I’m not going to tell you you are wrong about those things you mentioned because we don’t know.

CAS is not just about deaths its about annoyance, spotting and distraction from an enjoyable game of land-based warfare.

Its like a wine bar that wont sell beer when people want beer. People just want a land vs land area now like people wanted navy. Really no more complicated that.

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I dont see why to be honest. Queue times that is it .That might be an issue.

Now BR masking could be something CAS does but again I have no real proof. I suspect the BR system is heavily at fault and CAS hides this to degree many might disagree.

Maybe its just the fact I favour high BR, for a number of reasons. But this is again. a core part of the problem.

It changes radically from BR to BR

From nation to nation.

Even maybe the day of the week.

CAS is used to describe so much. That the line between CAP and CAS almost doesnt exist and “CAS” is used to describe any method of attacking something on the ground

My main concern is for those that are really strong in hull down/sniping. Or those that normally wouldnt be used for fighting tanks. We already have some SPAA like the Falcon WAY over BRed due to the their AT power. I can only imagine that some dynamics would change.

(without seperate BRs, this could spill over to CA gamemode and ruin vehicles in that gamemode, by over BRing them)

You are right though… We dont know. But the TO-vocates. Refuse to even accept the possiblity that things arent quite as simple as “Add GRB but disable planes”. The reality is, is that TO would be a LOT more work than that.

And yeah, Gaijin HATE long queue times. Its why Naval EC only runs on the weekend and why they probably wont ever add RB EC for air. I think TO is a long shot at best. Better to work on fixing the GRB issues with combined arms. Like overhauls to spawn points (the locations). That would benefit even tank vs tank

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For any debate and discussion, we need all the viewpoints. By somebody raising a genuine point we can maybe overcome them or arrive at a decision. Nothing really to stop Gaijin coming in to any of the conversations we have on here much more than they do .

Maybe to them it’s all just a small and useful place for info for the player base which is fine. Im sure we overstate the forums importance generally.

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