The best SPAA is still dogshit versus any competent CAS pilot; i don’t understand why so many people whine about “buT TheY have ThE BESt SpAA in tHe Game”.
I saw heli with a bomb in actual match ONCE. And it wasnt even Ka-50, it was Mi-24.
Poorly written report with poor answer, which was intrepritated to some other things. Idk why you or any other bringing it up again and again. Fuel tanks can tank hits in game (not only on soviet tanks). Ammo stored in them can be protected by this fuel tank. It is quite simple thing.
The Pantsir S1 outperforms the TOR-M1 in basically ALL aspects and replacing it with TOR-M1 would level the playing ground for nations (isn’t possible now unfortunately). It would also lack guns so it would be balanced in ways.
The best SPAA is still dogshit versus any competent CAS pilot; i don’t understand why so many people whine about “buT TheY have ThE BESt SpAA in tHe Game”
This is because it also works in hand with Russian CAS, some players bring aircraft to counter aircraft and completely removing this gives one nation a MASSIVE edge. This is why you can see MiG-27K pilots fly care free whilst Tornado GR.1 or F-16C pilots have panic attacks.
Poorly written report with poor answer, which was intrepritated to some other things. Idk why you or any other bringing it up again and again. Fuel tanks can tank hits in game (not only on soviet tanks). Ammo stored in them can be protected by this fuel tank. It is quite simple thing
It was the first time I’ve brought it up and yes I can somewhat agree that it was poorly formed but that doesn’t change the fact Russian vehicles can casually gobble up penetrators without any sort of consequences. The reason behind it was “wet ammo” which is ridiculous since it should only protect from shrapnel and not direct hits and I should mention THIS ONLY APPLIES TO FUEL TANK stored ammunition not the carousel.
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No
As far as SAMs go; the Tor received the new missile physics first as it released with it’s physics modelled (the only one, which is why it was horrible), the 2S6 received it’s physics in the same patch as the VT-1, the Roland and ADATS were adjusted later
There was rarely any aircraft to shoot down as a Tunguska. Aircraft would sit out of radar sweep which was difficult to deal with in any SPAA and enemy Helis would just get annihilated by Vikhr helis on your side.
Pantsir being worse than the Tor, what a joke, the thing has a 20km range for fucks sake
But it was brought up countless times by the likes of you.
…Just as any other tank…
And any fuel tank in game can eat up rounds. Thats how the game was made. Japanese fuel tanks can eat rounds. Russian can. Chinese can. German can and etc. Dont like it? Write a suggestion or idk. And yeah, answer was newer about carousel anyway.
Pantsir only outperforms TOR-M1 in two aspects; Anti-helicopter with 18km range, and <2km with guns which is also anti-helicopter since jets don’t get that close.
Soviets only got meta CAS this update with Mig-29SMT. Now everyone but Britain & Sweden have meta CAS, and those two get meta CAS shortly.
@イリアス 18km* range against non-maneuvering targets.
9km range against semi-maneuvering targets.*
Flat Range means absolutely nothing. New SMT Kh-29TD has range of 35 km, but (actually you need to find map with that ranges first) you will never achieve a hit from its full range (because of guidance time and other variables, like speed, your target movement and how you guide your missle.) Same goes for Pantsir.
So a 3km window where the Tor is better
I’d say the Pantsir is better anyway just because the missile is far less obvious
No, cause TOR-M1 has better maneuvering missiles from 2 - 12km.
But it was brought up countless times by the likes of you
Please go up and check how many times I posted the link to that specific reddit page and bug report, I can assure you it was the first.
Just as any other tank
Ah yes the Leopard 2A6 with around 20mm on their side can gobble up penetrators with a similar performance to their Eastern counterpart! You’ve honestly lost your mind, how can someone be so blind and ignorant at the same time.
And any fuel tank in game can eat up rounds. Thats how the game was made. Japanese fuel tanks can eat rounds. Russian can. Chinese can. German can and etc. Dont like it? Write a suggestion or idk. And yeah, answer was newer about carousel anyway
No that isn’t what I’m trying to say read what I send carefully. The Russians have a detonation rate similar or even lower in certain instances to their NATO counterpart, this is because they use “wet ammunition” and this still applies to ammunition outside fuel storage which is the main issue.
Two wrongs shouldn’t make a right and the main issue with Russian vehicles currently are them gobbling up APFSDS shots to the side not the Japanese or the Chinese.
Pantsir only outperforms TOR-M1 in two aspects; Anti-helicopter with 18km range, and <2km with guns which is also anti-helicopter since jets don’t get that close.
Tell me you’re bias without telling me you’re bias…
Tested two F-16s (one MLU and one Block 50) against a single Pantsir S1 and guess the amount of times he casually intercepted our stuff? 90% of the time, it took over 5 launches of AGMs to actually break through this invisible barrier but I guess that isn’t important and overlooked.
I’d take the Pantsir S1 over ALL current SPAAs in-game (possibly besides the ADATS) thanks to it being on literal steroids.
Good luck getting points for them in M60 against T64s and T72s lol.
this is a suggestion, not a proven fact. So we can only say for sure 2.
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… Okay, you cant read at all.
Idk, play the game. You will see quite many Gaijin moments
No issue. Idk what are you talking about. “Wet ammunition” is about it at all.
You can’t think of any experimental vehicles near that same time period? HSTV-L ring a bell?
Seeing how many people complain about it’s performance despite several videos showing it can be great, no. It was tested in 1982, T80B and T64B already existed. Even 2S14 existed before it.
Do you honestly truly literally believe that if this goofy ass year based matchmaker came into the game, that it would only encompass 2 years at a time or something? HSTV-L would certainly fight early T-72 and early T-80
No, and that would only hurt all sides. My original comment was about year BRs being a bad idea. Imagine AB43 fighting against IS2s and T34-85s. Or swedish PVKV tanks seeing early T-54s (hell even T44 is too much). Or same way with T-80 (soviet light tank 1942) fighting Pz 4G.
Then why do you speak like you believe it?
I was the one to tell it would be a bad thing for the game, not to suggest it.