Why arnt russians given the sherman treatment?

does the panzer 4 have solid shot shells?

do german guns have solid shot shells?

because their guns are much worse

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Always need more. ;)

on early russian tanks. the l-11 guns on the t-34-1940 and kv-1 br 3.7, the solid shot shell does indeed have more pen. 14 more pen than the md-5 fuse aphe.

however, and this was after a couple of matches of trying out the shell. the shell isnt that bad. honestly. tho, i mostly performed well because half of the enemy team consists of newish players. the shell itself hasnt got alot of 1 shot potential. sometimes i hit an ammorack and it cooks off. at other tanks, particularly shermans which have their crew fairly wide apart, it sometimes took up to 3 shells to take it out.

you miss that 1 shot potential you have with the aphe shell.

hench the question on why russians arnt receiving the sherman treatment.

if shermans are doomed to start with the solid shot. why arnt the russian tanks?

Tanks start with their weaker shells so they have something to grind for, its the reason why America starts with solid shot. For Russia, their solid shot actually performs better in terms of penetration which is why they start with APHE (even though in combat APHE is actually better).

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I guess AP-shells counts as solid shots, could be worng, what has that to do with anything? My point was: how can you say mUh ruSiaN bIaS when across tech-trees, similar vehicles share similar performance?Why is it not german bias, swedish bias, italian bias? You see the delusion? there is no bias…

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my question was regarding about why russian tanks dont start with solid shot.

then you make the insufferable comparisment about german tanks starting with aphe shells. do they have a solid shot shell that can start as a worse starter shell?

Yeah actually. Its called APCR.

Read my reply again, think you missed something

you can indeed make them start with the apcr shell. its not that rare. the M48 for example starts with apcr, because its globally accepted that apcr is one of the worst shells in the game.

have you even touched the ussr tt

i was replying to your original unedited post.

read my question.

why arnt russian t-34’s and kv-1’s given the sherman treatment, by letting them start with solid shot?

other than apcr as axzuel mentioned, germany doesnt have a solid shot. not a proper one, atleast. they dont have a non filler ap shell. your comment about “GeRmAnY sTaRtS wItH ApHe” was therefor unneccesary.

Coping thread, hmm?

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Far better angle pen, lower ricochet chances, APHE status does matter (both 75 and 76 mm US solid shot rounds deal lacklustre damage), better ballistics due to higher muzzle velocity and ballistic cap.

It’s not as good as the MD-8 fuse round, but it is certainly stronger than M72 AP.

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Well aside from AP shells soviet tanks dont have solid shots, not in the form as british, american or french tanks… Thats why they dont start with those shells. Have you ever played soviet tanks?


this is the solid shot for the soviets.

incidentally, same question arises for soviet 45mm guns. they start with aphe as well. the solid shot ap shell has maybe 3 pen more at first. but not having a filler clearly makes them worse. and thus a better choice for starting with. since that is the logic gaijin goes with.

So bad though that I can’t invest enough confidence to shoot something in some angle that average shells are able to pen.


@JeruzalemisREAL why you’re targeting Russia and not mentioned that the Germans start with way better APHE shell? The Japanese? Or anything else?

thats a chinese vehicle, make sure there are no mistakes here, look up the equivilant soviet vehicles to make sure. What tank even is that?

So is it German bias because they don’t start with APCR?

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