I don’t understand why we are stuck using the Jaguar and the SU-7 at top tier. Now that we have some very strong 4th gen fighters and AA that can hit planes in spawn, why are we stuck with 9.3 planes that don’t even have flares or chaff. We spend all the effort to get a nuke, then get shot down by an AA system or a plane that is 30-40 years newer that can kill you from 11 miles away.
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They are still supersonic
If you are flying at treetop level, which honestly I dont see why you wouldnt be, then its pretty difficult if not impossible for SPAAs to hit you before you get over the battlefield to drop it. Not to mention it also makes it much harder for enemy fighters to lock you and their Radar missiles to hit you.
That said, while the plane probably should have flares and chaff at top tier, simply spawning a nuke is not an automatic I win button, nor should it be. People should be given the opportunity to shoot you down.
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Amen
No one is asking it to be an automatic win button. People just want better airframes that actually have flares and won’t die from 10.3 IR missiles.
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Top tier 14.0s will die to 10.3 IR missiles, what is your point here? Not to mention there is a Jaguar at 10.7.
The Su-7 tops out at Mach 1.04 without any payload and minimum fuel at sea level. Also, not all maps are flat; there are more than a few where the airfield is visible by some spawn, or you have to fly over mountains where a type 81 or strella can shoot at you. Most radar-guided spaa aren’t a problem because they can’t see you for long enough to kill you, but ir is because, like I mentioned before no falirs. Then we get to any jet over rank 7, and some in rank 6 have all aspect IR missiles that can lock you at aloeads one mile from the front, and the Russian jets have the R-27ER 3 mile lock rating from the front, so multipathing won’t save you from that.
All I’m saying is that we need jets that have a chance of surviving against 14.0 jets like the F-111 and the Su-24.
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They have flares to easily flare those off, meanwhile nuke planes are shafted.
I am a nuclear accelerationist. give us a 3000SP option to spawn an ICBM facility so we can nuke other matches as well
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TBF nuke should be removed and ground strike capable CAS should be put at its price range instead
What???
For sure need to be updated
Personally I feel an F4E would be a good choice for western nuke plane starting around 11.0 as it is still worse than current top tier planes but able to defend its self to a better degree than the current one. Additionally it was used by many countries unlike something like F111.
however I am unsure of a good Soviet counterpart as I dont know if any mig21 variants were nuclear capable
Pulse doppler radars dont care
Nobody asked for that
No, they won’t?
awful idea, makes zero sense balance wise or logically
Pulse dopplar radars absolutely do care, even at 14.0.
Yes they will lol, if an AIM-9J hits you, you are gonna feel it
No, they don’t. Unless you are multipathing PD does not care about altitude. You won’t avoid missiles or locks by just being low.
You have to do something entirely moronic to die to a 9J at 14.0.
Give me one single reason the nuke plane needs to be flying above multipath altitude? That was my entire point
Oh wow so you might avoid radar missiles! The all aspect IR missile in question:
Its GRB, if you dont see them coming and they get a shot on you, even a 9B is an easy kill on a 14.0.
Staying low isnt just for avoiding radar missiles, its to make yourself harder to spot. They cant fire IR missiles if they cant find you.
Also, I never once said the nuke plane shouldnt get flares or chaff.