Why are the China TOR / HQ-17s not 11.7?

Cause all you need to defeat its missile is do a barrel roll. Its like Roland but worse due to smoke trail and being huge.

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thats funny beecause all you need to do to defeat other SPAAs is just stay over 12km away .

Its fine, Tor just gets outranged by any GBU/Mav/PGM,etc. Sure you can see some of them and try to kill them,but you have only 8 missiles.

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everything is being out ranged by cas. the tor shouldn’t even have a issue dealing with them since it can just lock onto the ammo and fire a missile at it. every spaa can drop ammo now.

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Have you used the tor? Huge smoky missiles, missiles go into sarh mode when the enemy chaffs, and they go after the chaff not the plane, massive dead zone where you can’t shoot, because the missiles go straight up they basically leave a nice line in a big ark telling planes where you are. The thing is useless against planes, useless against tanks, and no better against helis than a adats, which can shoot at tanks.

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adats also only has 8 missiles, drop it to 11.0!

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including IRST? the TOR M1 does NOT have IRST. it has TV tracking which in wt is HORRIBLE.

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Adats has 8 smokeless missiles and can shoot tanks, also doesn’t give planes a launch warning.

Yea I meant that, mb, but yea that’s what I also mean with “Terrible tracking”

no tank is dying to the adats from 11.7 the missiles can’t even be aimed right

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Yeahhh… Its a really sad AA unfortunately. Works well when people fly high tho(when they dont know how to dodge)

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Better than nothing

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can my otomatic be 10.7 then please i dont think its quite the top tier capable AA as its essentially an overgrown 2S38 with a search radar and slightly better apfsds with a limit of 12

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“Just lock onto the ammo” I don’t think you know how stupid the Tor’s radar is. It starts having a stroke whenever there are multiple targets in close proximity. Although I agree that it can take out AGMs well, it only has 8 missiles, and it takes ages to reload. Smart CAS players will just dive as soon as they see a Tor ping and then gun-strafe it without any issues.

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i still dont know why the otomatic is at the BR it is at.

because uhh… suffer. 👌👌😎

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Ok? The highest br Roland aa is 10.3, that’s still .7 lower than the tor is gonna be.

And what does that have to do with the tor?

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why would you need thermals when you can just spam click in third person like everyone else does?

There are times when it refuses to lock in third person and having to manually lock onto it is SVERELY hard without the use of thermals and especially at extended ranges. Thermals is a huge thing but most people like yourself don’t appreciate it.

The Tor-M1 should be 11.3 however, it’s good for 11.7 but that’s because every other SPAA around it is garbage at around 11.3 to 11.7.

The adats is the Only SPAA that can’t do this

This was bug reported and got acknowledge, the ADATS should be able to lock in third person in a short amount of time (give or take 1 decade knowing Gaijin).

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“This aa is so bad that it’s basically useless, so your aa that’s also so bad it’s basically useless shouldn’t go down in br” is a pretty useless point. I’m guessing you don’t have the tor, it’s the same useless missiles with a bit of extra range, you can’t shoot them at things close to you, and you get a track radar. You still can’t shoot them at maneuvering targets, you still can’t steer them without them just being wet noodles, you have to hand guide them because the track radar fights you and puts the missiles into sarh mode on chaff and bombs, what exactly makes it so much better than the Roland’s you’re complaining about?

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