This video is a perfect example of how the bushmaster and other similar autocannons perform in War Thunder. These autocannons, in my opinion, are quite weak and unreliable at times, especially when compared to Russian or Chinese autocannons. NATO 30 mm guns struggle to defeat cannons even if you have APFSDS.
My personal experience with Eastern autocannons, however, is quite the opposite. They are much better at obliterating any cannon they fire at. I also think the Bushmaster is quite inaccurate at range in-game, despite its low fire rate.
So what do you guys think? Is NATO 30mm too weak, or is it just a skill issue on my part?
NATO 30mm feels a lot weaker because their firerate is abismal dogshit. The issue in your clip is mainly just that you were not even hiting the cannon for like 80% of your shots
I tried to take his machine gun because it can destroy the bushmaster. And if you look near the end of the clip, you can see how many shots his gun ate. That’s at least my main issue with the clip
Which APHE/AP will deal more damage to.
Either way, American APFSDS is not less powerful than any other APFSDS.
NATO 30mm guns are as powerful as any other 30mm.
& there are 30mm rounds in NATO more powerful than Soviet’s 30mm APFSDS rounds.
But APFSDS isn’t going to take out barrels faster than AP rounds.
APDS might also deal more damage to minor components than APFSDS rounds.
300 grams of projectile is a bit more than 170 grams.
There are 30mm APDS rounds that are close to 300 grams [at minimum Warrior’s].
Newer APDS seems to be closer to 190 grams.
That’s the sacrifice you make by having more pen in this case.
30 mm Bushmaster II Mk 44 shared the same dispersion values with the 30 mm 2A42 in the past before Gaijin increased 30 mm 2A42 and 30 mm 2A70 dispersion. Not play the victim, “NATO 30 mm is too weak”; 30 mm autocannons are too weak overall, specially regarding the damage to the caliber; a 25 mm autocannon will perform way better because it has the highest firerate, and 35 mm because of sheer penetration value.
Which would be the dispersion, that’s has been increased in the past few months?
Thanks for this info! This is very helpful! But in my case, with the Type 25p, the weight difference feels insignificant, with only a 20 g difference between the APDS and APFSDS
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn’t actually fire because you were already dead.
This is what I’ve learned from completing the game and studying almost every aspect of it.
It basically comes down to a simple formula:
Sufficient penetration + high rate of fire = good. High penetration + low rate of fire = trash.
Additionally, you might not know this, but the 125 mm tank gun barrel is surprisingly difficult to damage. You can check out Zentunion’s YouTube channel, where he has posted videos demonstrating this.
Now combine that with a low rate of fire, a gun barrel that’s hard to disable, and an enemy constantly wiggling their turret, and you can see why dealing with those tanks becomes even more frustrating.
Although I’m not denying my skill issue here, if you look at the hit cam, you’ll see that I hit the cannon dead on.
Anyway, I have two videos that demonstrate the issue I have with Bushmasters, specifically that of the Type 25p. Keep in mind that I most likely hit a really goofy spot inside the barrel on the second clip
not only it performs quite poorly for the penetration its supposed to have but its very inaccurate too at long distances, some time ago people complained that bmpt didnt wobble when firing as it happens in real life then they added the same value of recoil for many 30mm autocannons cannon and didnt do it based off their fire rate as it should have been, bush master due to its slow fire rate should have the best accuracy amongst autocannons, the slow fire rate was exactly for this purpose by design
mm not sure about that, if not mistaken the wobble added to these autocannons after that update was the same for all
when i play swatrginf its very inaccurate at long distance because of it’s recoil while bmp2m seems to do much better in the aspect of recoil and dispersion despite having a way faster fire-rate
No, they specifically nerfed the 2a42 and 2a72, the chinese got dragged because they use the same guns
The modifier for the dispersion went from 0.08 to 0.2, this was nefed on June btw…
