Mowag Shark with FL-20 instead of FL-15. Then everything will be good.
He’s right though, BR 9.0+ needs the most help, the Mowag will likely be 9.0. The Vextra’s and CT40 equipped vehicles are in a better position to supplement the Leclercs.
Never said it couldnt use more tanks. I even suggested a unique and potrntially very good vehicle. That and some more french-swiss prototypes would really spice things up.
And youve still got the sk105, amx10rc, and mephisto.
Heck with the br changes germany is in a similar spot. Youve got the 8.0 marder with 66mm of pen and 4 atgms that might end up going into the ground, the 8.3 unstabilized m48a2ga2, and the rakjpz2 hot, and the 8.7 jpz ka2 and tam. And an 8.0 leo 1. A lot of nations are in that spot, i assume.
Oh this. Yes both of these could go to france and germany can get the marder df105 and clovis fl20/105. Avoiding copy paate while giving germany and france similar vehicles.
And also because germany has plenty of light tanks it can get.
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Depends on what rounds it gets. If it gets the df105 ammo and not apfsds then itll be 8.0-8.7.
It has the OFL-105 G1 from the SK-105, as well as a 20mm coax with APDS. It’s still unstable and likely drops the thermals that the AMX-10RC had.
Switzerland should not he relegated to other nations that are potent enough on their own.
Im not saying france dosent need help, but you are just wrong about Italy.
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The KF41’s APS and spikes are ineffective, and it’s the highest BR IFV despite being outperformed by others like the PUMA and BMP2M. Italy’s top armored MBT is the 10.3 Hungarian 2A4. The 120 Cent, Otomatic, and Sidam 25s are over-tiered. Despite a new subtree, Italy’s top and mid-tiers remain underwhelming. Few of the additions are good enough to make certain lineups more viable that being the 2A4 and T72M1, both copy paste.
France got the AZUR, Mirage 2000D-R1, Mirage 2000-5F, EC-665 Tiger HAD Block 2, AMX-10P, AMX-10M, AuF1 and an entire naval tree all in the past year. Italy got the AV8B+, Ariete AMV, AH-129D and hungary. Both getting some misc low tier tanks too. Italy only shines with light tanks, the AV8B+, and a new helicopter, akin to Israel and France. Unlike France though, Italy and Israel also don’t have a competent Top tier SPAA.
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so where’s Frances sub tree?? like the UK, Italy and Sweden ??
France has had zero help for the longest time. We’re just starting to get decent vehicles that make us competitive recently.
The HAD Block 2 and AZUR are poorly implemented as well.
France doesn’t require a sub-tree at all. They just require more attention from Gaijin.
Comparing France to Italy and Sweden is just funny
I’ll tell you guys, Italy lacks vehicles with effective armour/effective anti-aircraft (otomatic is beautiful but useless in its current state)
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How is it funny to compare minor nations ??
lol
Because France could easily rival the USA, Germany and USSR on any field present in the game, Gaijin just needs to pan more attention to France and it’ll be good.
Italy and Sweden aren’t even close to such capability. It’s not hard to see why such comparison is funny.
Italy need a new top tier SPAAG so we can put the OTOMATIC again at 10.0. Idk for other nations.
Welcome to the life of the PSO, KF41, Type 10, Ariete AMV, Merkava Mk.4M, and M1A2 SEP. Stop complaining; minor nations barely receive any attention. Everyone is in the same boat; France is not unique.
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It took three and a half years for Japan to get a better SPAA than the Type 93.
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After years of anticipation, the PSO and SEP did not receive the extra armor they used, despite abundant evidence of its use.
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The Ariete AMV and Mk.4M have poor protection, and in the Mk.4M’s case, its slow reload is justified by “balance.”
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The Type 10 has incorrect armor values, acceleration, and reload speed. (The only accurate aspect is its model.)
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Sweden’s air force performs poorly, with the Viggen being outmaneuvered by a MiG-21 given enough time.
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Only the PSO is comparable because both are downgrades, which even then not really. It should have been like the SEP where it was an armor package rather then it’s own vehicle.
They’re also saying that they’re at least working on the HAD Tigers and TopOwl for every other helicopter that has it but it took them long enough.
So you are comparing one of the largest European land powers with a historical naval power, a minor neutral nation from WWII, and Italy, a country with limited tank development.
France has a LOT more options for what tanks to add unlike sweden, italy and the UK.
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Im not talking about the M1A2s TUSK or NERA side of the PSO. Both the PSO and SEP have EXTRA lower front plate / upper front plate armour which they used, neither got it even though both used it.
In the PSO’s case its missing the extra UFP armour that the STRV 122 uses. In the SEP’s case its missing its DU armour inserts. Just like the Lecercs, both the SEP and PSO are missing thier armour. This again shows that france is NOT unique.
You seem to be confused about what I’m talking about again and are just arguing to prove a point. Have a good day.
Also, the PSO never used the UFP armor that the 122 uses.
yeh i am because this isnt real life and France is one of the oldest tech tree’s yet still one of the smallest and lacking in BR brackets , which by now shouldn’t be the case