Thats then again only leads to conclusion that german players are genuenly worse players, i cant find any more justification for such
That’s not how it works.
Is this conclusion drawn from the mouth of a player with only 1K/D? That’s quite interesting. When I was talking about Sweden, you still thought it was the problem of German players. You disregarded the fact that the Leopard 2 has been weakened four times, and chose a claim without any data support. This is extremely absurd.
Precisely. There is not one bit of actual evidence for that and there is also no logical explanation for why specifically Germany players would be more resistant to learning than others besides confirmation bias. There are plenty of explanations why german mid tier performs so atrocious but by top tier Germany is not played nearly the same amount as it is in the Tiger BRs.
There is exactly one month. In July 2025 the Leopard 2A4M was the second most played premium but with a full MILLION less games than the first placed T80. So Sorry but there is absolutely 0 evidence that German top tier is more populated by newbies than the other majors, in fact just going by the numbers russia should be absolutely stacked with wallet warriors at this point.
IMHO, last ~2-3 years the main newbie nation is USSR.
That’s what the absolute majority of new players of all nations do.
Specify?
Overall is more close to 2, and yes, thats what i have to say after grinding several trees.
It was weakened last time in 2024, their KD ratio then didnt rise or fall drammaticaly.
You can make a better take my specifying that US, USSR and Britain got buffed, and i would agree that it is a factor, tho still i dont find 2a7/122B worse than T-90 or M1A2.
there is. Most german machines have better ratios in other countries, lol.
blind german is a meme not because evil US and USSR mains want to make germans look bad.
Again, there is!
Their tanks throughout BRs are either VERY good or just good, so their learning process is quite different from what, for example, French mains have.
it sure is.
USSR was always one of the most picked, but i wouldnt agree it is most picked for all three years. Up until T-80UE…
Japan is fun from Rank I to Rank VIII only strugling at rank III with the tiny lineups.
Italy is fun from Rank I to Rank VII.
France is fun from Rank IV to Rank VIII, although your tanks have no stabilizers and armour thinner then paper.
China is very fun as well, grinded to top tier without premiums. Hopefully they receive more love in the future - China is a good investment knowing what they can get!
There are a lot of 100 lvl players who play on low rank Germany.
Ok then ask yourself why do those better tanks stats not result in wins.
Ah so community memes are valid now? Good to know, because i think there is one that you wont like being real.
That not even remotely proof that Germany players would be more learning resistant than other major players.
Then why is russias winrate not as bad as Germanys if they should, by all numbers, have vastly more wallet warriors?
Don’t tell him, he might guess…
Yes But this is where the problem lies. Only the Leopard 2A7 is not worse than the M1A2 or the T80BVM. If you have played Merkava 4, Type 10, or 99A, you will find that these vehicles are not worse than the other Leopard 2s. The Leopard 2 was indeed powerful in the past, but the reason was the lack of the German and Swedish air force systems. Now their air forces are not much stronger, but the Leopard 2 has already been weakened four times.
Low - yes, 1.0?
Certainly not Pz 3E.
VVVVV
their tanks only stay so low because them cant play properly. They got T-34-40 to 4.0 whilist the Pz IV H there. And the IV G is 3.3 my god thats nonsense.
Its not about meme, rather than the experience that playerbase has that they even did a meme
its universaly a blind german meme in russia, us, britain, ect.
No, it is a factor that leads us to believe they are
the “wallet” tanks dont show much betterness tho. The difference is made by other players, who tend to be more experienced
I want you to correct me if im wrong, but at the time when there were no 2a7V, the 2a6 not only had a better winrate but was universaly called a best MBT. Then they added Sweden and that was the moment Germans started arguing for the 2a7V as the STRV122 had such a better protection it left germans speechless.
Im on my way to them. Tho i compare it to BVM, 90M, Chally 2 and M1A2
only one of those is somewhat proper 12.7 tank compared to both 2a7v and 122b
Its true that it got worse with time. Especially seen as they got the reload rate of all countries to be faster than Leopard’s. But that aint mean it got to be worst mbt now, especially compared to those who crave buffs of their tanks like Ariette.
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Who said so?
the fact that it is worst starter tank?
Why would a pedobear bother playing it? Would rather pick Pz 2 or Pz IV early. Or even an event ones. Or the 3F at least
Thats completely and entirely your evidenceless conclusion, there are plenty of factors that are not purely based on tank performance that influence winrates.
Huh i think there is one other universal experience that all except one part of the playerbase like to share… i just cant remember what it is rn…/s
Based on, again, nothing.
So the USSR is just magically more resilient against the literal hordes of premium players, because the rest of the players are better than all other nation players. Give me break dude the amount of cope you guys need to make your magic, little, evidenceless theories work actually hurts my brain.
exactly. Players are the first one.
tanks are SO great, and yet.
brain does not work like that. It may work with not universal experience, but its still not “nuthing” if its a meme around the community. The roots also may differ tho you need to dig a bit into the problem to understand it.
Yes, exactly. Also russian mains tend to be from russia, and russian players take the game more seriously on average. Everyone knows the SYKA BLYAT which implicates a huge amount of involvenment.
exactly why german players are worse players xD
Why not? I play on all tanks of that BR.
Well its undoubtedly the best argument.
Tho as i already said, such players usually tend to use better tanks.
Like sweden 20mm event machine was, when they grind events by sacrificing youth.
Id rather believe such will use 234-1. 3E sounds just a bit rash?
Again you completely fail to give a single reason why Germany players would be worse. Your entire argument is based on the assumption that they are and thats why the stats are the way they are. Your argument is the wrong way round.
Great to know, because in case you didnt clock it, i was talking about russian bias which is a long standing popular thing in the community. So i guess that one has a basis now as well, hm?
Ah yeah the good old, “russia players are just better” without any proof whatsoever. I was waiting for that classic.
Yeah Germany players are worse, because the average russia player is incapable of making an argument for their wild, baseless theories. Big brain time.
i dont know how to put it any better if you dont get what i mean. Its not that i assume german players are bad, and then look at the stats. I look at the stats and then assume they are bad. The stats themselves, their REAL gameplay performance leads to that. So its not an assumption, its a recognition of their real play :/
I grinded german tanks enough to point thingers on those which are undertiered, yet they only get buffed, not nerfed. Its a hella german fun there. At least gaijin managed to nerf leopard 2a4s the way they got as regular as any others
It surely does! USSR is one that gets many tanks, some technologies it also gets first, some proper bugs like T-34-85s drivers hatch or the KV-1 Fuel tanks are a huge factor that make this rumors exist! There always is a reason, you only need to dig to it!
I myself start to believe it when another 88 jumps away from 34s driver hatch xD
german main statistic is proof by itself. How it is sang in one cool old song? “Its a book of a true stories. True stories that cant be denied! Its more than true, it actually happened!”.