Where is the Chieftain laser range finder. Mk3 should probably have it, Mk5 100% should

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The Chieftain was the first MTB to be mass equipped with a laser range finder. the Barr & Stroud LF2 from ~1970 onwards.

It was installed in the Mk3 - 3 upgrade.

So while the Mk3 didn’t have one initially it was upgraded with one so whether or not it should be included in game is debatable.

Given that the Mk3 gets a 8.7 battle rating and is matched with significantly more modern tanks which all include laser range finders then for the sake of balance the Chieftain Mk3 should be upgraded to its 1970’s MK3 - 3 upgrade.

The MK5 should just 100% have a laser range finder.

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bug report

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@Ace_Lonewolf @Zulizia

In game we have the base model Mk.3 and Mk.5 according to the devs, this has been bug reported before (previous attempts attached)

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/7m0MVw1XOlhs
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/176s87rPRnDs

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so, i guess a suggestion for a newer Mk.3 and Mk.5?

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We have base mk3 and mk5 cheiftains which dont have the “totem pole” upgrades.

so no

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yeah Mk3 base didn’t have it but the Mk5 did.

The Mk5 had the LF2 laser range finder by default which used a Ruby based laser.

The totem pole upgrade for the Mk5 was replacing its LF2 ruby laser with a new neodymium one

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They would be okay 9.0 tanks, and finally push my Chieftain Mk10 up to 9.3.

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Huh? What makes you think a Mk 5 with just a rangefinder would be worth the BR increase?

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Meanwhile the Vickers Mk.3 is chilling at 8.3 with lovely mobility and a LRF.

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the Olifant Mk.1A with APFSDS and a LRF at 8.3 :3

It’s slow ill give you that though.

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Yeah. The biggest Power spikes as the BR increase’s are Laser range finders, APDSFS ammo and gun stabilizers. Chieftain gets 1 out of 3. Most comparable 8.7’s get 2 out of 3 or even 3 out of 3.

It has terrible mobility. And while it does have above average Armor for its BR that kind of means nothing. Having 50mm armor or 200mm armor is basically the same thing when everything is shooting 300mm+ pen APDSFS at you.

If you look at the other 8.7’s.

M60A1 Rise. Stab + APDSFS ammo, No LRF
T-62. Stab + APDSFS ammo, No LRF
Object 122MT. Stab + APDSFS ammo + LFR + Secondary ATGM weapons. (Damn China might be winning the best 8.7 in game with that one)
AMX-30B2. APDSFS ammo + LFR , No Stab

So Chieftain would still be right at home at 8.7 with a LFR + Gun Stab and no APDSFS ammo. That way it would get 2 of 3 of the main power increase’s like most of the other comparable tanks.

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I would find it more interesting if the Chieftain Mk5 were given the L15A5, and that the performance difference between the L15A3 and A5 be investigated.