Just take the ground vehicles in the main research line. Not counting the copters, just the ones in the game. Event cars don’t count.
Why won’t Gaijin bring it into the game for the USA? Even though Pakistan doesn’t deploy the Oplot, why did Gaijin let China have it?
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“If you exclude all the vehicles that have LWS in US tech tree, then US has no LWS equipped vehicles”.
Nobel prize worthy logic right there.
so again
You don’t want the US to have LWS that much? Wow, are you that afraid of being crushed by USA tanks? Even USA ground vehicles have been disadvantaged, their technology is inferior to every other country in the game for almost 30 years. Don’t you want the USA to have good stuff? Don’t you dare claim that airplanes are the most overpowered in the game. We’re talking about USA ground vehicles.
never said that lol. All you were doing this entire thread is crying that Abrams doesnt have LWS and it should have, without providing a single source for it.
I merely called you on your blatant lie.
I do much better with US tanks than you.
DoI has little to no bearing to balancing and BR placement, for better or worse.
I want all vehicles in game to be portrayed as accurately as possible. Since no Abrams to my knowledge fielded LWS, they cant have it.
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Every version of Sep has it all installed. It can be installed = it can be had.
Because the particular configurations that would have access to an LWS on a ground vehicle are mostly constrained to either test articles that were returned to a baseline configuration after the completion of the program, or non serial production vehicles and prototypes.
To some degree it was never seen as a development that was worth the weight and developmental time required to address the issues properly, as it only forms part of an effective defensive suite in tandem with other developments (e.g. ROSY obscurant systems) that lagged for a variety of reasons, mostly due to ongoing technical debt as modern open systems electronics architecture and needed to be backported as the underlying systems are many decades old at this point for the M1 and M3 and so would otherwise need to be bolted-on. And so simply not a priority in the post-Soviet threat environment.
And with ongoing middle-eastern “commitments” very few of the expected threats were laser based, and so why systems like CREW DUKE (AN/VLQ-12) and M32 ARAT II ERA tiles were prioritized in the Post-9/11 decades.
With the Shift back to the Pacific, we might see a reversion to the system(though to some degree the availability of cheap IIR sensors makes SALH systems less useful), but with the M1A2SEPv4 getting refactored to become the M1E3 who knows which way things are going to go, as it provides another chance for it to be included.
Though with the stated goals the weight budget for systems growth may well have been cut to reduce the weight, as one of the key concerns of the M1E3 program is a significant 25 Ton weight reduction to a 55 ton “combat weight” as a goal.
Though it does look like, a future inclusion on the M3 with the “ECP2b” program’s revised systems.
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If every SEP has it installed, its easy to find pictures and sources. Provide them.
inb4 im not your google, find it yourself = burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. you are admiting youre wrong lol.
Here’s one.
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you said it yourself.
Ah yes if it was installed they should get that
If that were the case you would be crying even more because of the stuff other nations would receive due to that rule
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And the particular variant, and configuration, as selected by Gaijin for implementation is entirely within their remit. Even if it never actually existed (see the M1(A1) KVT as a fairly blatant example), so the propagation of an LWS system to say the SEPv2 (or a prospective future SEPv3) would be the least of their sins even in the US Tech Tree.
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completly fair. Unlike OP you actually provided proof and explained it, so i have zero issues with that.
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Inaccurate.
US has good tanks at every BR. Abrams is either the best or 2nd best at every BR its placed at.
M1 is the 2nd best 10.7
IPM1 is the best 11.3
M1A1 is the best 11.7
M1A1 HCs are the best 12.0s
M1A2 SEPs are the 2nd best 12.0s
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t be enough of a reason for the Abrams to have an LWS. As long as it’s compatible (even if it requires software/hardware upgrades), it can be added in game?
I say this because looking at Ah-64E for other nations, as far as I’m aware, the US,Brits and Dutch, should be the only one to have JAGMs. To my understanding, V6 is the version to have full JAGM integration and V4.5+ is the supposed to bridge V1s/V4s to V6s.
The issue is that both the Taiwanese and Indonesians don’t operate them and I couldn’t find any sources of them being upgraded (except that Indonesia has placed an order for new Ah-64E very recently). So what we have in game is a “what if they were upgraded”.
I’m very confused on what the standard is on whether or not a system gets implemented.
Not like LWS isn’t extremely niche at top tier anways.
It’s not niche nor is it a game changer but it’s useful to have. Laser guided munitions cost considerably less than FnF making them quite useful early game, even in late game when SP is tight, they come in handy.
It’s by definition niche at top tier.
Maps are just too small to give you enough time to react to enemies lazing and shooting you with a dart.
More and more vehicles are getting FnF weaponry by each update, so you extracting value from that LWS happens very rarely.
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tbh playing the T-80UK with LWS save me quite a few times
its a niche feature
everything helps
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