When will the gripen E come and what will he bring?

Should have better I believe. Better engine, bigger wing

what will E bring:
if added before 5th gens: 120C-5 and 9M
if added after 5th gens: meteor and IRIS-T

But also more weight no? Even if TWR is better, I wonder if maneuverability suffers.

its wing is also bigger, but I’m expecting a jump in flight performance similar like f16a to c. worse turn but better acceleration and top speed

should be around 8 tons, a bit more than 1 ton heavier than the c
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Does it have lower wing loading?

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unfortunately idk but you can probably calculate it from this sheet
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its wing loading is higher… probably worse performance then

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Probably similar to the F-18C and the superhornet situation then

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at least the base griper isn’t as anemic as the fa18c lmao, will probably still be quite good

Considering it’s no escape zone has been advertised as 100km + I doubt it’s max range is 120km

It should be similar between the differences of F-16C to F-2A

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its not even like they came up with the idea

no it shouldnt, as already proven earlier in this thread, wing loading is higher

which indicates a lower instantaneous and sustained turn, idk if the extra engine power is enough to counteract and improve sustained, but I doubt it will cause much improvement

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Not sure if that adds up chief, the ‘extra thrust’ in question brings the plane up to a positive TWR with a full AA weapons load, and the marginally larger wings equate to more lift, which when combined with that extra thrust would logically equate to better performance, regardless of wing loading.

Either way you’ve proven yourself to be an avid gripen denier, and upon review there was zero actual ‘proving’ done about the FM, so i’ll take that claim with a handful of salt

a ~14% increase in wing loading will absolutely effect turn performance
and a ~3% increase in empty thrust to weight,

the increase in thrust to weight will not be enough to counteract the increase in wing loading so you will have both worse instantaneous and sustained turn rates

I dont know how its hard for you to understand that

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so a shittier gripen FM, not bad eh. i can get behind that lol

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F-2 has lower wing loading

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Think of it like f16c vs 16a. Worse turn, but better acceleration and climb

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