When will other nations than Russia be allowed to have the "best" in a class of vehicle?

Tbf i did just mean 40mm specifically- But yes this an issue i dont get… I get the SAP-HE belts that they arent pure- But like-

The 25mm Chaingun Is not that good, Adding full belts will not break it

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They are switching up biases often then.

I was talking about HESH.

Yeah, US/France never really received any preferential treatment.
This is also linked to the trifecta mentioned earlier, as just because you don’t see preferential treatment doesn’t mean it never existed in the first place. T58 isn’t just a boon, it’s a tier ruining vehicle.

It’s pretty much a closed loop people don’t want to escape from.

I doubt many people in here are Russian, so they’d lack that one very important thing when it comes to bias accusations.

I’ve been on this forum for long enough to notice clear trends.
Western OP vehicles and double standards are barely even talked about and other side gets scrutinized much more often for reasons discussed above.

That’s the thing.
One vehicle got FnF capabilities before everyone else and Spikes were a thing IRL back then so no excuses are to be found there. Implementing Spikes shouldn’t take years, right ?
By 2022 both JAGM and LMUR were a thing, but UHT was left to roam free as the only helicopter from major nations with access to FnF munitions.

You’re also correct, this isn’t in any way comparable to the LMUR as UHT example is much, much worse. Giving one nation a point-and-click adventure in a helicopter that’s almost uncounterable from the ground all the while others are stuck with manually guided missiles is a giant double standard.

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They are actually for 9 out of 10 tech trees which is exactly what ive been saying the entire time.

Man youre not gonna believe what the HE in HESH stands for

Or maybe they are less talked about because it happens less often and especially doesnt happen to the same western tech tree consistently. Or maybe because the amount of incidents in favor of western trees in the past ~2 years get completely overshadowed by negative ones and russian favoured ones

Adding capabilities to certain nations before others happens all the time in the game, its a double standard but not a unique one.
Purposefully leaving in faulty coding for everyone but one tech tree despite being clearly able to fix it and having proof that it is faulty is a completely different can of worms.

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Because those areas are the ONLY weakspots for russian MBTs clever boy

NATO MBTs have these, and the UFP, and even the turret with some NATO MBTs

All this added bias will actually hurt the nation they’re apparently so biased for, which makes no sense.

So big caliber HEAT would do the same thing ?
HESH should work in a specific way that’s definitely less useful than what we have in the game right now.

You seriously need to re-read my comment.
People just think it’s happening less often due to reasons already explained. Vicious circle, I know.

It would take me a second to tell you all preferential treatment France got in the last year or so, but no one is talking about that. That preferential treatment spanned through ground, air and helicopter trees, so pretty much the whole package.

So double standard is fine until you think it isn’t. Got it.

Being a sole beneficiary of something for months and years isn’t right. That’s like you gave darts to a single tank in the game while everyone else was stuck with HEAT or giving radar and all of it’s benefits to one AA.

So it’s like MICA having better seeker while others are stuck with the default one, even though they have information about their true seeker capabilities.

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Like ive said a couple times, Gaijin using some preferential treatment to keep russia competitive in top tier does not mean that they are keeping russia at the absolute top at all times against every odds.

Probably not since HEAT is actually modelled differently while HESH seems to behave the exact same as normal HE.

For the T58 yes for quite literally any other HESH slinger not so much.

Well you say that but somehow you never give actual examples where one singular tech tree got as much preferential treatment in a similar timeframe as russia to actually back up your argument.

Literally not what i wrote but again you read what you like anyway

Yeah its similar to that with the difference that the MICA has an accepted bug report thats the reason for the seeker change but Gaijin leaves the other AGMs in the dirt despite multiple year old accepted reports.

So, just like they did with Ariete at 10.7.

HE in HEAT stands for High Explosive, just like it does in HESH.
Them coding HESH to behave like HE isn’t right, even more so when it actually benefits it. That’s Gaijin purposely leaving faulty coding in the game.

Regardless of reload speed you’re still getting a more powerful round due to faulty coding.

Meanwhile you can only think of LMUR and 38MT.
Dozens of fakes have been around the game for years, which nullifies your 38MT argument.
MICA nullifies your LMUR argument.

I’ve listed you more than enough examples that took me around two seconds to think of, but sometimes it’s never enough as the other side is unwilling to accept certain things.

Unable to accept biases and double standards found elsewhere in heaps and continues to find excuses.

So your (and from many others) posts are filled with sad stories of how LMUR is getting preferential treatment, but I haven’t seen you crying about MICA getting the same thing. This perfectly describes what I was talking about as some people only see what they want to see and ignore other instances, just because one of their main (or only) prerequisites for malding is the connection between that weapon/vehicle to USSR TT.

And again, if MICA was under USSR this change would see orders of magnitude more complaints and bitching about bias, unfairness and whatnot. Since it’s addition, Rafale is flying well below radar coverage and gets continually buffed and it’s not like people haven’t noticed it in the game, as Rafale has comparable games played to planes even from major nations.

I guess Pantsir being the best of the useless ones took all the malding power out of this forum.

Also, other ARHs have known data on their seekers, but it’s only the MICA that got it’s change expedited by Gaijin, all the while being the best ARH in the game at that point, which is a further kick in the balls.

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Difference is that Gaijin so far hasnt proven that they can actually properly code HESH which they can for lofting.

Soyuz fantasy armor scheme , fake SU30SM missile racks, the whole debacle with not wanting to add internal modules for ussr tanks, MI28NM LDIRCM being straight up physics defying, ERA volumetric modeling being a complete joke for years, Stingers cant be better than Iglas because they look similar, BMPT “external” ammo belt, 2 decade old russian PESA radars that scan faster than any modern AESA in the game despite ample proof that they dont. So no, i cant only think of those 2 but they are the most ridiculous ones imo.

Thats just a straight up lie, both are a topic plenty of times whenever Air is discussed and despite 2 or 3 french mains everyone agreed that the Rafale+MICA handling was awful by Gaijin. And again the MICA and the Rafale buffs at least have actual bug reports and the AGMs dont even get a simple value change in their code despite multiple accepted bug reports for absolutely no reason

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They had literal years to code a blob of plastic explosive getting squished onto an armor plate and then detonated, sending shrapnel through the interior. They’re well aware of how it works judging by their animation of HESH rounds in the modification window.

Well covered by dozens of fakes this game has.

Every other LDIRCM is as their in game coverage lobes are impossible to achieve in real life.

Ah yeah, the agreement of two people that actually care to discuss something not relevant to USSR.
Now compare this to constant bitching and malding about things happening to some other nations.

When something under USSR is handled awfully it’s automatically bias.
When something under non-USSR is handled awfully it’s nothing more than a funni mishap.
This forum is double faced and it’s pretty easy to notice.

So it’s fine for something to wait for years for it’s fix all the while MICA is getting it’s fix expedited because of reasons. You’re still finding excuses to blatant favoritism and bias France has received in the last year or so and at this point it’s really funny to watch how someone got flashbanged this hard by bias.

I’m really confident in saying that you and many others would mald their asses off if MICA was under a certain nation.

Look guys, this (already the best) missile got it’s fix much more quickly than our forgotten ones that were bug reported who knows when. Bias !1!1!!11!!

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You will never see a nation other than Russia dominating top tier BRs gentlemen, not gonna happen

I agree that its stupid that HESH is not modeled correctly but If LMUR wasnt lofting no one would complain since it might actually just be a coding issue but releasing LMUR with loft and no one else getting it shows that it is evidently not a coding issue but a deliberate choice

Awesome so thats 2 out of 8. I thought it would be easy to find another singular tech tree with a similar amount of preferential treatment?

No its not, its preferential treatment both times but like i said people react differently to those things depending on how often it happens to a tech tree. The Rafale was a bias monster past year but its not like France gets preferential treatment constantly.

No its not. Ive got no idea why you think that i find the speed by which Rafales problems got fixed compared to anyone else acceptable.

Already happened multiple times, please stop spreading this bs

Sure, everybody complain about italian bias nowadays

So is keeping HESH brutally overperforming.

ERA isn’t limited to USSR nor is volumetric.
Stingers and BMPT okay.
I don’t have enough knowledge about radars to say if it’s true or not, so I’ll just accept it as true.

That puts us at 3 things spanning multiple months or years.
France got that amount of catering in the last year or so lol.

No, they react to those things depending on how often they think it happens to a TT. Spot the key words in here.

The problem in here lies with the fact specific nation gets scrutinized much more for things like these.
Discussion (or lack there of) about this thing in particular tells me all I need to know.

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Not necessarily if the devs just cant make it work like it should

Exactly, similar ERA but weaker is found in the chinese tree so are terribly modelled autoloader carousels, fake ships are in the japanese and german tree, a missile with a fake functionality is in the French tree, Lofting missiles are nowhere, overperforming (albeit less egregious) LDIRCM is found with the 64E and Z10, you can make a debate whether the new EFT double racks are fake or not. There is a counterexample for most things but its like i said, there is no singular tree that gets the same amount of treatment and at that point its just a question of your own definition what would constitute as bias. Either you believe there is no bias since everyone gets preferential treatment in some form or you believe that there is, because one gets its more consistent than the others. Neither of those definitions is 100% wrong or right and both are subjective in the end.

HESH is a solved technology and has nothing special about it. It’s more that they don’t want to spend time on doing changes

28NM’s LDIRCM is actually the easiest to go through due to how it’s lobes are modelled in the game.

My dude, Germany received a whole lineup of fictional vehicles just for fun. Half of Japanese TT is either fake or extremely dubious.

Most nations have a lot of things that went their way.

It’s impossible to be biased for basically every nation in the game, especially if bias is supposed to stem from IRL agenda which is suggested by many on here. At that point it isn’t bias anymore, but incompetence mixed with constantly changing opinions and rules to fit things into the game as best as they could think of.

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its a solved technology but that doesnt automatically mean that Gaijin can model it properly in game

True but theres the problem: lobeS there shouldnt be lobes there should only be one at the bottom being useless against missiles coming from the top.

And yet you cant find a nation that recieves the same amount of preferential treatment

It is because one bit of treatment doesnt necessarily constitute a consistent bias. There is no constantly changing opinion the agenda is keeping russia competetive at the highest BR in every mode, all the time no matter if they should be or not, because keeping your biggest playerbase out of your most profitable BR would be bad for business

Never. Russia NEEDS to have the best stuff.
Russia is the most played nation. With the most Premium vehicles. Inflating the numbers and making their stuff look like it’s underperforming. So they “balance” that underperformance by giving them the best stuff. That’s all. Pantsir is the very obvious example. Russian jets and their CAS loadouts / Radars/ Middle who are insanely good with their excuse being "the platforms isn’t as good like a typhoon so it’s needs better armamanets to compensate. Etc. etc
Currently the terminator bs. Remember when the grippen was ridiculous good at airrb? How quick they were to NERF it. It took them WEEKS to raise the BR of something Blatantly Overpowered that is still overpowered even at 11.3

I don’t see anything that might be particularly difficult to implement when it comes to HESH.
If they made darts work, they can make HESH work as well.

It’s still the least egregious one as it can be defeated, unlike the others that have full, spherical coverage.

I already told you that receiving a full lineup of fakes is an extremely big buff for any nation.
I’m not even mentioning Coelian being buffed again, PUMA fiasco, 2A5 total dominance on release, Turm III, fake Maus ammo, UHT getting FnF missiles half a decade before anyone else…

Please read my comment again.

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no they are NOT bro, i’ve been 1 shotted through the UFP, rear of turret, rear of tank, front-sides… ect ect…

What the f are you talking about ? OF COURSE the rear of the tank is an universal weakspot for every MBT, there is no armor there lol.

The UFP weakspot on russian MBT is a TINY DRIVER GLASS SIGHT. The UFP weakspot on NATO MBTs is EVERYWHERE