bro, im talking about through the ERA, composite, ect ect… gemme a sec lemme pull it up.
what the f are you saying. nato round can UFP russia era.
other countries well
Oh i didnt know that i was talking to an expert when it comes to war thunder programming, maybe they should consult you next time before they add some new mechanic that utterly screws the game
Its the most egregious since the others do have almost full coverage at least, the MI28NM straight up bends a laser through the helicopter fuselage
A lineup that got removed, what, 6 years ago?
Fixed 7 days after release
4 years ago, moved up 10 days after release
Its amazing that you have to go back multiple years and still cant match the amount of bs russia got just in the past 2 years. Just accept that russia needs papa Gaijin to come in and do some pampering so they can play with the big bois in the top bracket.
Now what good would that do?
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nah my guy plays only france… thats why they are complaining
HESH coding seems like an enigma which Gaijin isn’t able to crack for a decade now. They’ve tried several times and engaged in back-and-forth with the community to solve this but to no avail. It’s still, overall, one of the hardest programming headaches to solve.
Or maybe they don’t even care about HESH at all because it’s present on like a dozen vehicles in the game ?
Others do it as well in order to achieve frontal protection.
Just like I’ve described before, some people see things only for vehicles/nations they’re biased against.
It wasn’t removed, just hidden from research and people can still use them.
They have been in the game for half a decade.
It’s also convenient how they decided to just hide it and not remove it outright like they do with ammo, maybe because they wanted to pamper to their fiction lovers playing Germany and Japan.
Judging by the stats, I doubt anything is fixed.
So just like BMPT ?
I’ve pretty much matched it while mentioning the fake lineup they’ve got.
This forum would self destruct if anything of that kind would happen to USSR, so stop trying to downplay it, not like you have anything else to offer.
Maybe you’d actually understand what’s being talked about.
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What i can speak of is about air, and russia didnt have anything “best” or “meta defining” for top tier for 2 years until very recently with su30sm2
Last time it was with su27s (that was overshadowed by grippen, but it was still great)
Su30sm was good but not best or meta defining either.
They have partial frontal protection just not as much as they do in game, acting like thats the same as a bottom mounted emitter going through the fuselage s very much “seeing things only for vehicles theyre biased against” Also why would i be biased towards a chinese/american vehicle which i dont even play
Yes because at that time the rules were different or Gaijin didnt properly research them and then removed them from the tree after
Or because they wanted to avoid the problems with removing potentially paid for content from the game years after they got added
If you actually bothered reading for once then youd have seen that the BR was not my problem since they upped it very quickly, my problem is the complete fantasy going on with the damage model
You pretty much have not. You yapped about fake vehicles from a time where that wasnt even a rule which then got removed and then you added some strawmen from things that are on average 4 years old and not even unique situations to the german tree. You just cant handle the truth that russia has no business being competetive at the top BR in every vehicle class
Youre severely overestimating the complexity of your comments
Just look at the BMPT changes from only today and tell me thats not complete bs
That partial frontal protection comes from the fact lasers can’t pass through fuselages.
It’s already established that all LDIRCMs in the game are not working right and that 28NM’s one is objectively the worst one in the game. Although, it gets the most heat out of all LDIRCM helicopters when it comes to that system.
Picture me surprised.
You don’t need to be biased towards those, just biased against a certain nation.
Rules being created, bent in shape and deleted just so they can cater to their preferred nation and no one else.
Ammo can also be paid for but it still gets deleted outright.
Shame Germany did receive half a dozen of fake ammo as well, bet it wouldn’t be treated as it is right now.
They’re seemingly really quick at fixing bugs, like with the external ammo you’ve complained about.
So why other nations didn’t receive their fair share of fakes, as I bet back then they had giant gaps to be filled. ?
And yet again, they didn’t get removed, just hidden from research. Two completely different things.
The thing you just said isn’t unique to USSR either.
Because its the grossest in terms of terrible modelling and its been around longer with the accepted bug report about its LDIRCM azimuth
Rules being different 12 years ago than today
Which ammo that could be paid for was deleted without replacement?
Either you cant read or youre trolling. They didnt fix a bug they completely made up a barrier between the belt part in the turret and the one in the crew compartment. Its blatantly evident bullshit to make the BMPTs stronger than they should be.
Probably because they didnt need them. Germany only got the fakes to compete with the late war/ post war stuff the others had
No other nation has a fixed lofting AGM
No other nation got a missile thats completely missing proof for its existence
No other nation got a ship which should have FCA but it got RCA in the same thickness just because
No other nation has a vehicle with an internal ammunition belt thats modeled as external
No other nation got its manpads to be the standard so no one can be better no matter the sources
No other nation got a PESA radar thats better than more modern AESAs no matter the sources
And thats from the top of my head literally just from the past 2-2,5 years
you do know pesas in game are worse than aesas right?
su-30sm and su-30sm2 doesn’t have target refresh outside of its E scan zone, while aesa does
and this is realistic
brochure image
It scans faster tho which it absolutely shouldnt
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All are terribly modelled and at least it’s LDIRCM can be bypassed in the game, unlike others.
It gets substantially more complaints about that mechanic all the while it has the lowest impact on the game when compared to other LDIRCMs.
Exactly, so others don’t start asking for a lineups filled with fiction, as that is only possible for Germany.
VEAK 40 lost it’s HE-VT round and received back nothing alike, which is the reason it has dropped a whole BR lower where it still performs like total crap.
What a way to destroy a vehicle by deleting it’s signature ammo.
Is it better than before ? Yes it is.
They’re obviously working on it.
Need is a pretty subjective take, especially for a developer that added a whole fictional lineup to begin with. Germany had it’s options but they chose this.
Who knows, might get fixed soon.
Germany was the only nation with a FnF missile on it’s helicopter for a long while.
Gunjob disagrees.
Also, Japan has access to 38MT so your point is moot.
You know you’re screwed when you have to bring up Naval.
Literally being worked on right now.
Also, I don’t know how much external those 20mm belts are in Leopard 2K and company, but they’re never exploding.
Fair.
So far you haven’t really convinced me that bias is there.
If I knew more about Air, I’m sure there would be some weird instances happening for other nations that you’re conveniently missing out.
Working on it? Seriously? This is not a coding problem, they literally have to assign external or internal to the belt but instead they artificially separate it so the BMPT can be stronger than it should be.
Its, what, 6 years for PARS and 4 for Spike? Its a value change, nothing else.
Strawman again, getting stuff first is not the same as deliberately leaving everyone in code purgatory while youre capable of fixing it in 10 minutes.
Gunjob is talking out of his backside with the 38MT like all Gaijin employees are.
Conceded, totally forgot that theyd rather put a non existent missile on a country that never even ordered its relatives than just remove it.
On the contrary. It shows quite well that no matter how incapable and uncompetetive the real life template is, Gaijin will find a way to make the USSR competetive at the highest br for every vehicle type.
The only thing being worked on is the creativity of the devs
They are separated from the crew via armor making them function as external other than the ‘‘external’’ fuel tank of the BMPTs which are also completely internal
Ofc i havent but like i said thats just the past 2,5 years, with the direction of the game into a timeframe where russian equipment will be less and less competetive those things will become more and more frequent.
And these examples were just positives for the ussr tree, im not even talking about the artificial negatives everyone else gets but russia never seems to. Were already at a point where having T90s/80s at the same BR as 2A7s requires an insane amount of gimping
Russia was pretty ass for ages in naval up until Kronshtadt was added but babies whined and complained about it, leaving Scharnhorst the uncontested Queen of Naval for almost two years.
It’s not like Iowa can’t compete against a Soyuz.
And how exactly does that not fit with what I said?
Because there’s never been a time up until Leviathans that Russian bluewater has actually been ‘best in the game’.
Which is not what I’ve been saying
I don’t know if Russia is the strongest, but it must have the most active vehicles.
Never said it’s a coding thing.
They think outside part should be external, which begs for some bug reporting if you think otherwise.
Yes, they should’ve certainly introduced PARS as the only helicopter FnF all with correct lofting.
Strawman as it doesn’t suit your narrative.
Just how bias isn’t bias but a funni mishap when a certain nation isn’t involved.
The king of excuses.
Also, getting Spikes to work wasn’t anything special either if you’ve already created working FnF code.
Copy the code, change the basic information about the missile like it’s name, speed and warhead type/HE filler and it’s basically done.
Took them long enough though and not to mention the difference between Laser and IR munitions is night and day, unlike the lofting.
Or he actually knows how an IR seeker should look like, unlike some others in there.
Would be true if missile was non-existent.
Also, missiles shouldn’t be deleted from the game, as I’m sure plenty of people paid real life money to research them faster. Shame how some rules are bent in a desired shape to cater to some nations.
Wait, are we still talking about this ?
I thought we’re talking about unique bias things that happened.
Floor isn’t there so I don’t think it’s external.
Again, you’re looking at something that affects more than just a few nations, singling USSR out and saying HA!
Read above.