You should probably ask for OFL 120 F2 first., the fact ghat leclerc is still firing the round from the late 20 century is ridiculous.
Doesn’t exist?
Oh believe me I have! We’re past the need for 600+ penetration we need next gen ammunition to defeat spall liners and advanced ERA.
Amd once again leclercs dont use shard.
Export only
Ofl 120 f2 wouldnt do anything.
Remember gajin uses a formular for it and the changes between tungsten and DU are minimal so thatbits implementation currentlynis not worth it
Yes? Its most sound existence is in a patent of its design and a handful of firing tests. Its projected entry date is 2027… Hell, its contract only started in 2021. DM73 isn’t even on service yet to begin with, to think DM83 is already functional is laughable when they JUST got past the hurdle of making a design compatible with current-use cannons.
No one uses SHARD it’s currently under qualification still apparently.
As to whether the Leclerc intends to use it I would have to assume they would want to use the modernized round which is aiming to improve penetration other than budgetary concerns which aren’t something War Thunder deals with.
It’s the only possible remaining buff to the Leclerc MBTs and as they’re indefinitely stuck at 12.0 it’s more than deserved.
The amount of times I’ve had F1 bounce off the side of a T80 I think the extra 30mm of penetration would be worth it but what do I know I just play the game. We’re past that point now though with the introduction of spall liners those shots aren’t doing much damage. It’s time for next generation APFSDS which was designed to defeat advanced ERA.
i trust the tech mods waretas recent message that shard is only supposed for export more then your statement here.
please provide prove france wants to use shard
https://www.hartpunkt.de/rheinmetall-liefert-qualifikationsmuster-fuer-120mm-munition/
“The Düsseldorf-based arms company Rheinmetall says it has successfully completed the development of the latest generation of its improved armor-piercing 120mm KE ammunition against the latest protection technologies. The qualification readiness of the ammunition type known as KE2020Neo or eKE (enhanced Kinetic Energy) has also been demonstrated, the company writes. As a result, Rheinmetall has been commissioned by the German Armed Forces and the British Army to produce the qualification sample of the new ammunition…”
Tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue.
Hell, its contract only started in 2021
A contract for qualification, and it was in 2020:
“A corresponding official qualification contract was signed in September 2020 by the Federal Office for the Equipment, Information Technology and In-Service Support of the Bundeswehr (BAAINBw) and the management of Rheinmetall Waffe Munition GmbH.”
As such, saying that it “doesn’t exist” is just cope.
You can go browse the brochures for the ammunition yourself if you wanted to, the statement that it isn’t used in Leclercs presently is correct but within the next few years this may change. I thought it had already passed qualification earlier this year but it’s still being qualified as of whenever Nexter updated their 2024/2025 catalogue.
so you have no prove at all gotcha
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They could just Leclerc DM53 and call it a day…
You can review the article linked in the first comment in this thread. You can also do as the comment you replied to suggested which is to read the Nexter brochures yourself if you wish to know more about what the ammunition is capable of / who it was designed for.
I can lead a horse to water that doesn’t mean it’s going to drink it.
yes nato 120mm round
no mention at all for service use in france
i am aware of that never asked for it
export market yes
no you arent leading the horse to begin with cause you are avoiding the question and cant provide the requested material
This is not enough of a buff for the vehicle to have relevance in the current meta.
Japanese MBTs have 4s reloads and faster speeds.
Russian MBTs have usable armor on all models as well as Gen 2 thermals and a capable autoloader.
Leopards are the most survivable tanks in the game along with their Swedish variants while sporting the strongest ammunition in the game.
Italy has a Leopard 2a7.
Abrams have functional turret armor and reasonable penetration while sporting a 5.3 second reload speed w/o gold star.
Challenger tanks have similar although better armor.
Israeli MBTs have APS and trollish armor while also having reasonable penetration.
Chinese tanks have effective ERA and NATO mobility with one even having APS.
The Leclercs can be penetrated frontally through the turret armor of nearly every MBT currently usable. Their only functional benefit is a 5 second autoloader which was nerfed alongside every other autoloader with its modeling. This is fair but its placement at 12.0 with its armor and penetration is not. It’s time for next generation ammunition so it can have the firepower to justify its lack of armor.
Since you insist that you are blind I will not make further attempts to communicate with you.
france hasnt ordered Shard its a fact, they currently are not planning to implement it into their army.
Here i trust @WaretaGarasu who works closely with the french community and bug reports to have better information then you
so stop being salty about being wrong, you were always a forum troll, if you cant provide the necesary sources for your claims just say so and dont deflect the topic thats on you.
As example i could provide several statements that DM83 / KE2020NEO in fact will be the new main ammunition for both UK and Germany. Thats more then you can do apparently.
But doing a bit of research into matters seems to hard for you.
On another matter you special ops guy, stop spamming the same topics Where is SHARD
literaly no relevantz changes, so i am gonna report the thread for spamming on your part, good day
Edit: Dont abuse the flaggin system, i am clearly talking about the SHARD ammunition here and how OP is misshandling the whole matter. This is definitly not off topic
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Please use this thread for this, and as said multiple times by others, SHARD was not implemented into the French military, at least for now, I guess.
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